AR

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<<<<<EDITED: well after reading your replies i have set up a service check up at another honda dealer (the one that does my oil changes)... they said they'll check the "memory for the codes", the guy was cool but oh well. we'll see tomrrow. he said it will take a couple hours and if anything's wrong it may stay overnight. i doubt anything's wrong 'cause the car rides and looks like the day first day i bought it. i just don't want anything to go un-noticed on my car. i have emailed the other dealer i first went to about the service rep prior to all of the info you've given me, thanks.

AND FOR THE LAST TIME, IT WAS THE MAINT REQ'D LIGHT, sorry for the confusion>>>>>

This morning I left for class (college student) and got on the local drive to get to school. after i exited the drive, i noticed that my yellowish/orange engine light was on. my car's only got 6900 miles on it and it's more than 11 months old, plus she's stock and garage (heated) kept. i pulled over, turned off the car, and read the manual. after reading, i did what the manual said and i tightened my gas cap. turned the car on and the yellow light of horror shined again on my dash. i left and went to class, about 4 miles from where i pulled over.

i went to the dealer when i was let out of my classes. it was one i've never been to and the sevice rep. was really nice. figures 'cause it was run in collaboration with a BMW and VW dealership... they now have a new honda customer! the area was downtown, where lots of rich people live. this is what the guy said:

ME: (timid) yeah, uh, i made an opointment, one of the "check engine" lights on my dash came on, (forget's the full name from the manual) the one that has to do with emissions... here let me show you.
REP: yeah hold on, pop open your gas tank for me.
:::*bink* goes my honda:::
:::*CLLLLICK* he winds back the cap to make sure it's tight::::
ME: i already did that, i checked the manual when i first discovered it.
REP: yeah well it will take few days for it to set and for the sensors to clear, it may just be a glitch or something. when's the last time you got some gas?
ME: 2 weds. ago. i always make sure to hear the three clicks.
REP: well i can reset your senesors for you right now, otherwise you'd have to wait and maybe have to have the car serviced overnight...
ME: ok.
walks to my door, pops the hood. *DUNCK*. goes to eletrical box with a phillips and resets it.
REP: start your car again.
ME: ok... and like you said, just come back if it the light shows up?
:::*VROUUUN* goes my civic. we both stare at the dash as all the lights come on and shut off. no light!:::
REP: yeah and if shows up again then you can have it serviced. it's all under warrantee.
ME: thanks. alright.
we exchange names, shake hands and i leave.

now that's quality ! the other dealer in my area, they don't know jack and they can be real lazy asses with just an OIL CHANGE lease: . plus i have always heard stories on the forum about half-assed delaerships. i am happy i found these guys.

could i have jiggled stuff around from going over bump at high speed ? i know it's a crazy thought but i do remember going over a bump on the drive this morning. but then again i didn't check the lights on my dash when i first turned the car before i left, i just checked the tach while i started the ignition.

do you guys know what could have cause this?

thanks for reading. thanks for helping.

tombgoodu

IF they gave you such good service, they should have read the code and tell you what is was. My engine light came on, went to the dealer in Toronto (Sisley Honda) they would not let me leave without finding out what the problem was, code P1457 the part was ordered will be fixed today. The dealer could have caused serious damage to your car.....!

Ronin

Yeah, I'm not so sure that was such great service. Like tombgood said, they should have at least tried to see what the computer code was ..... instead of just saying right off the bat that it's nothing serious and resetting the codes.

Sounded to me like he was just trying to get rid of you quickly.

What if it was something serious? Resetting the codes may allow it to get worse by letting that problem go unchecked longer.

Mbow

Yea, they should have at least read and looked up the code to see what caused it.

I agree, he just turned it off and sent you packing.....However, at least he was friendly.

MIT

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what u mean "check engine" light? i look up civic manula book, there no such thing call engine light? are u means that ~Maintenance required light~?

slystad810

Sounds like they kinda brushed you off instead of finding the problem. I don't think hitting a bump would cause the check engine light to come on. I just hope that it isn't something serious!

Turning off the light doesn't turn off the problem!

Ronin

'Malfunction Indicator Lamp' in our manuals.... same thing as check engine light.

Maint Req'd is a separate light.

AR

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well is there a way i can find out what still might be wrong?
what a bastard. i should have waited the couple of hours to find out what was wrong.

the light still has not come back on lease: . i can come back if the light shows up.


but like he said, it would reset in couple of days and if it was to come back on in that time, then i know there's a problem.

AR

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like what?

tombgoodu

Welp folks ecu codes are just about one of the most ignored things i have ever seen yet one of the most important at the same time. face it, that little light doesnt just come on cause it thinks its close to christmas, it means you got a problem.

if your truely concerned with your investment thats probably thousands of dollars aka your car then seeing whats wrong with it can only aid in your decision's to take care of the thing.


Here are the codes,


obd1

0
Faulty ECU.

1/2
Oxygen sensor or circuit.

3/5
MAP sensor or circuit.

4
Crank angle sensor or circuit.

6
Coolant temperature sensor or circuit.

7
Throttle angle sensor or circuit./Throttle position sensor

8
TDC position/crank angle sensor or circuit.

9
Crank angle sensor or circuit./
#1 cylinder position

10
Intake air temperature sensor or circuit.

11
Faulty ECU.

12
EGR failure.

13
Atmospheric pressure sensor (BARO sensor) or circuit.

14
Electronic Air Control Valve or circuit./ Idle air control valve

15
No Ignition output signal. Possible faulty ignitor.

16
Fuel injector circuit.

17
Vehicle speed sensor or circuit.

19
Lock-up control solenoid (auto trans. only)

20
Electric load detector. Possible open or short to ground in ECU wiring.

21
VTEC spool solenoid valve circuit.

22
VTEC oil pressure switch circuit.

30
A/T control unit ECM fuel injection signal "A"

31
A/T control unit and ECM circuit.

41
Heated oxygen sensor heater circuit.

43
Fuel supply system circuit.

48
Heated oxygen sensor circuit D15Z1 engine.

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obd2

P0106 5 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Circuit Range or Performance.
P0107 3 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Circuit Low Input.
P0108 3 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Circuit High Input.
P0111 10 Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor Circuit Range or Performance.
P0112 10 Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor Circuit Low Input.
P0113 10 Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor Circuit High Input.
P0116 86 Engine Coolant Temperature Circuit Range or Performance.
P0117 6 Engine Coolant Temperature Circuit Low Input.
P0118 6 Engine Coolant Temperature Circuit High Input.
P0122 7 Throttle Position Sensor Circuit Low Input.
P0123 7 Throttle Position Sensor Circuit High Input.
P0131 1 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor Circuit Low Voltage (Sensor 1).
P0132 1 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Sensor 1).
P0133 61 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor Circuit Slow Response (Sensor 1).
P0135 41 Front Heated Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Fault (Sensor 1).
P0137 63 Secondary Heated Oxygen Sensor Circuit Low Voltage (Sensor 2).
P0138 63 Secondary Heated Oxygen Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Sensor 2).
P0139 63 Secondary Heated Oxygen Sensor Circuit Slow Response (Sensor 2).
P0141 65 Secondary Heated Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Fault (Sensor 2).
P0171 45 System is too lean.
P0172 45 System is too rich.
P0300 Random Misfire.
P0301 71 Cylinder #1 Misfire or Random Misfire.
P0302 72 Cylinder #2 Misfire or Random Misfire.
P0303 73 Cylinder #3 Misfire or Random Misfire.
P0304 74 Cylinder #4 Misfire or Random Misfire.
P0305 75 Cylinder #5 Misfire or Random Misfire.
P0306 76 Cylinder #6 Misfire or Random Misfire.
P0325 23 Knock Sensor Circuit malfunction.
P0335 4 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit Low Input.
P0336 4 Crankshaft Position Sensor Range/Performance.
P0401 80 EGR Insufficient Flow Detected.
P0420 67 Catalyst System Efficiency below Threshold.
P0441 92 Evaporative Emission Control System Improper Purge Flow.
P0452 91 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Input.
P0453 91 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Circuit High Input.
P0500 17 Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit malfunction (Manual Transmission).
P0501 17 Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit Range/Performance (Automatic Transmission).
P0505 14 Ignition Control System malfunction.
P0700 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P0715 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P0720 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P0725 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P0730 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P0740 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P0753 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P0758 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P0763 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1106 13 BARO Circuit Range/Performance.
P1107 13 BARO Circuit Low Input.
P1108 13 BARO Circuit High Input.
P1121 7 Throttle Position lower than expected.
P1122 7 Throttle Position higher than expected.
P1128 5 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Lower than expected.
P1129 5 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Higher than expected.
P1149 61 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor (Sensor 1) Circuit Range/Performance Problem.
P1162 48 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor (No. 1) Circuit malfunction.
P1163 61 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor (No. 1) Circuit Slow Response.
P1164 61 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor (No. 1) Circuit Range/Performance.
P1165 61 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor (No. 1) Circuit Range/Performance.
P1166 41 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor (No. 1) Heater System Electrical.
P1167 41 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor (No. 1) Heater System.
P1168 48 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor (No. 1) LABEL Low Input.
P1169 48 Primary Heated Oxygen Sensor (No. 1) LABEL High Input.
P1253 21 VTEC System malfunction.
P1257 22 VTEC System malfunction.
P1258 22 VTEC System malfunction.
P1259 22 VTEC System malfunction.
P1297 20 Electrical Load Detector Circuit Low Input.
P1298 20 Electrical Load Detector Circuit High Input.
P1300 71 Multiple Cylinder misfire detected.
P1300 72 Multiple Cylinder misfire detected.
P1300 73 Multiple Cylinder misfire detected.
P1300 74 Multiple Cylinder misfire detected.
P1336 54 Crankshaft Speed Fluctuation sensor intermittent interruption.
P1337 54 Crankshaft Speed Fluctuation sensor - No signal.
P1359 8 Crankshaft Position/TDC sensor Connector disconnection.
P1361 8 TDC sensor intermittent interruption.
P1362 8 TDC sensor - No signal.
P1366 58 TDC sensor #2 intermittent interruption.
P1367 58 TDC sensor #2 signal.
P1381 9 Cylinder Position sensor intermittent interruption.
P1382 9 Cylinder Position sensor No signal.
P1456 90 Evaporative Emission Control System Leak detected (Fuel Tank System).
P1457 90 Evaporative Emission Control System Leak detected (Control Canister System).
P1459 92 Evaporative Emission Purge Flow Switch malfunction.
P1491 12 EGR Valve Lift Insufficient detected.
P1498 12 EGR Valve Lift sensor High Voltage.
P1508 14 Idle Air Control Valve Circuit Failure.
P1509 14 Idle Air Control Valve Circuit Failure.
P1519 14 Idle Air Control Valve Circuit Failure.
P1607 ECM/PCM Internal Circuit Failure A.
P1655 30 SEAF/SEFA/TMA/TMB signal line failure.
P1660 70 Automatic Transmission FI signal A Circuit Failure.
P1681 30 Automatic Transmission FI signal A Low Input.
P1682 30 Automatic Transmission FI signal A High Input.
P1686 31 Automatic Transmission FI signal B Low Input.
P1687 31 Automatic Transmission FI signal B High Input.
P1705 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1706 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1738 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1739 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1753 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1758 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1768 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1773 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1785 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1786 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1790 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1791 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1792 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1793 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1794 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1870 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1873 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1879 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1885 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1886 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1888 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1890 70 Automatic Transmission problems.
P1891 70 Automatic Transmission problems.

AR

iTrader: (2)

thanks for the info. but answer this: where did i say that i "ingored" my engine light? i don't think read a line of my post to begin with, n00b. i would tell you that i took it to dealer (twice ), but i would REPEATING MYSELF.


UPDATE:

nonetheless... i went to a second dealer and the service manager told me nothing may be wrong with my car. he said that since my light hasn't come back on, then it may be from my "gas cap not being tight enough". obviously you and i both know i am not stupid and don't know how to count to THREE WHEN I TIGHTEN MY GAS CAP.... AS I DO every single fncking time i fuel up.


well it's been 4 days and the light has not come back on. is there a code for that? lol

flotsamm

iTrader: (1)

Did you by chance see what he did to reset the codes? I'm curious to know how this is done in case I have to do it some day. I know that I can disconnect the negative battery cable, but I dont know if this is the same thing since the tech used a philips screwdriver.

tombgoodu

AR

It's good nothing major has gone wrong some dealers just want you out of there face. It sounds it was just a loose gas cap.

edicivic2k1

iTrader: (5)

If anyone knows how to reset this light, please reply.

Thanks...

AR

iTrader: (2)

I explained this. Read the thread again. He only unscrewed something under the wiring box.



Why are we raising dead threads?

edicivic2k1

iTrader: (5)

I read it again, and i have the same question, what did he do under the wiring box with the philips head screw driver? and when u say 'wiring box' do you mean the fuse box ? i want to know cause i got the same thing goin on.

Because of this feature [ ] i found this thread. The thread has good information, i wouldn't call it dead, imo.

AR

iTrader: (2)

Alright. Well there is another issue at hand. Are you peaking on 10k on your odometer, if so then it's normal. You car (made by Honda) is telling you to run it into the dealer and to make sure you schedual a 10K mainentance check up!

You want to reset it? Ok, do this:
Turn your the key but don't don't start the car
Before doing this press your trip odometer button and hold while turning the key
Let all the dash lights light up and your maint req'd light too.
The flashing should stop after that try.
Presto.
I believe this in our manuals too.

When I wrote this post I was well under 7500 miles on my car. I think it was just my gas cap... it never came on.

Ironcally, last weekend I hit 8k and it blinks when I start my ignition. Blinks 10 time then stops. This weekend I am going for any early oil change just to inquire about it.

I just did a search on this 10 min ago.

If none of this corresponds with your car (hitting 8-10k and etc.) take it to Honda.

edicivic2k1

iTrader: (5)

Just for follow up, I got 35,555 miles on mine, and the 'Malfunction Indicator' light came on about 7-10 days ago. so of course the first thing i did was read the manual to find out what that stoopid light means, and of course the manual says it is likely means that the gas cap may not be tightened. So, thinking that must be the problem, i go to the car and smash the gas cap shut pushing hard enough that it barely clicks, so i know its tight. Since the light didnt go off after that for a couple days, I decided to get more gas even though i had over 3/4 tank, and of course this time I cranked the cap on pretty dam tight. THIS WORKED! light off, but it took a day or two after the fillup to go off. By the way, my idle has been surging lately, and was either due to the gas cap, or there is a problem, so I did schedule an appointment with the dealer to get 1) OIL change, 2) check groaning brakes[tsb NHTSA Number: 626674 ], 3) and idle[tsb].

The technique you specify will reset the Maintenance Required Indicator, but not the Malfunction Indicator light.

SGda

I've also got similar problems with the 'check engine' light. twice, the check engine light came on almost immediately after a topup. And the car will sputter, jerk, before the 'check engine' light came on.

The first time was some 20000km ago, and the problem mysterious disappeared after a topup at 3/4 tank mark.

the second time, happened 2 weeks ago, also after a topup. This time, it did not disappear after a topup. So I went to a local dealer, and the OBD reported faulty EGR. Got it replaced under warranty. Still I don't feel the problem is solved as there is still a slight jerkiness in the power, though the 'check' engine' light did not come on.

I had suspected that there is a sensor at the entrance of the fuel tank, but the OBD at the dealer reported EGR problem. I really doubt his finding as the EGR right in front, in the engine bay, and I don't think a petrol top up can trigger the problem.

What else could be the problem?