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Old 05-23-2003   #1 (permalink)
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Post Warrenty law that Save's your a$$

Ok you have to read this, first i must say to moderators make this one sticky.

"we dont cover that under warrenty cuz your cars been modifyed" BULLSHIT! ! !

If your tired of the dealership giving your shit about the modifacations done to your ride and not standing by there warrenty then you need to read this link and print it out to shuve it in there face.


Congress wrote a law in 1975 that states Legally , a vehical manufacture cannot void the warrenty on a vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the after market part caused oR contributed to the failer in the vehical ( per the MAGUSON MOSS WARANTY ACT)
here is the code (15 U.S.C 2302(c)) .For best results, consider wrking with performance-oriented dealerships with a proven history of wrking with customers. if your vehicale manufacture fails to honor emaissions/warranty claims, contact the EPA at (202) 260-2080 or.

If federal warrenty protection is denied, contact the ftc at (202) 326-3128

there are also LAWERS who will wrk for free for you to get the needed repairs done to your car THATS RIGHT FOR FREE.......

A concumer rights are protected by requiring the manufacter/warrantor to pay for all fees for a successful case

every here this one....

"COUND NOT DUPLICAT CUSTOMERS CONCERN" since the "repair" is not officially recognized by the manufacture, the dealership either writes " could not duplicate" or perhaps " vehicale operating as designed" and send the customer on his way...



READ UP ON YOUR RIGHTS ! ! ! ! DONT LET THEM FU#$ YOU LIKE THERE TRYING TO DO TO ME.

As of now the dealer wont warrenty my AC cuz i have NOS...How does NOS FU#$ up your ac clutch...he said that i must have hit a high RPM when i hit the NOS and broke the ac clutch, Just because you see NOS int he car doesnt mean i use it all the time Besides...MR dumb ass manager. havnt you heard of a little thing called a revlimitor....this prevents the car from exceeding the breaking point of the motor and all its parts...so if i didnt damge the motot then i couldnt have damaged the ac motor or its clucth...Infact they wouldnt even wrking on the damn thing cuz the saw NOS LINES....he didnt see the bottle cuz it was in my garage where its been for months ....

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Very nice, thanks for the info.
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Dealers will f**k you anyway, that law will not help! And that is stupid to go to the dealership with NOS installed. Be wise!!!
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what about simple bolt ons likes cai's and exhaust?
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Dealers will f**k you anyway, that law will not help! And that is stupid to go to the dealership with NOS installed. Be wise!!!
thats what the law is for. if NOS caused the problem they dont have to cover it. however if they dont want to fix your seat that rocks because you have a CAI then thats what this is for. or if you lower your car and your tranny goes out. they have to prove, by law, that the suspension mod made your tranny go out.
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Ok since my last post i have called american honda and made my complaint...they gave me a referial code and they said that they would call community honda and check the sh@! out...they also said that the dealers are independently owned and they cannot make them do anything..well i shoved this federal law in there face...and this is what i got ...i called community honda on tuesday and ask for the district manager ...which they thought i would never do...they said he was at lunch and he would call back....1 hr went by and they called back....and said he doesnt call customers...I said give me his number and I'll call him then...they then said well......out of good faith and they would fix what was wrong with car THIS ONE TIME but i would have to pay 78 bucks for labor....I M NOT PAYING SH$# ....I WAS THINKING ...
but wait what maid them change their mind..befor they wouldnt even touch my car now all of a sudden their ok with it.....they tryed to tell me that the district manager approved for they wrk to be done on my car ....so we hung up.....well that day i took my car over to Honda World for service...i still left the NOS lines in for all to to see....and they had no problem wiht it...that was so fu@# cool....( remeber kiddy's HONDA WORLD OFF THE 605 EXIT FLORANCE) AND MAKE A LEFT..).American Honda call THAT SAME DAY and said that communty honda was going to repair my car under warrenty and that they had the part in and when ever i was ready to come on in and they would fix it UNDER WARRENTY....what do you think about that!!!!!! well it was to late my car was already at HONDA WORLD and they were already fixing all the things that was wrong with it with out the hassel and bitching of the mods...NOW THAT SERVICE.... they didnt even fix the AC unit ...the had to special order the part so i have to wait ...i know community has the part but there is now way I am ever going back there sine they treat me like a person at honda world and not some 13 yr old kid....when I'm almost 30....cant help it if i look young and act like it....

so to Alex053, the one who said it was stupid to go to the dealer with NOS and they always fuc$ you ....well they law is the law maybe you should try useing it to your advantage ....more time in school and learn about your rights will get you alot further then just comments about the thing u nothing about....it looks like I FU#@ them ....huh

sorry for the type-o's .....

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ok took my car in for the last of my repairs, i got the ac wrking now, i must say that this law is the shit when it comes to modifing your car, not to mention the very helpful cooperations from honda wrld...

dont take it to any other dealer if you live int he whittier area, if you go there make sure to ask for ISRIAL he's cool...tell him James witht eh black 2k1 civic with the broken ac sent you...hill help you out for sure ...

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Post bitching law



Kazzell you f#$@ them tite I also purchased my civic @ community H
w/ some chick ?? well anyway I can't remember her name


Thanks for the info I kind of had the feeling CH where nothing but *******s when it comes to
servicing your car. Just to think I did not buy the nos kit for that same reason I thought
it will void the warranty once installed. I'm sure also depends what went wrong with your car
that they are able to fix
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Well, that's all fine and dandy for you and I am happy for you. However, the dealer can simply say that they won't cover it under warranty and tell you to get the f out!

Yea, there is a law but simply throwing it in their face isn't going to always work. They will still tell you to go get f-ed. Then, you have to pursue action which most people will not do.

In the end, it's best to simply return the car to stock if the problem could even be remotely related to one's mods. EVen if they couldn't be associated, it's just the smart thing to do.
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ok took my car in for the last of my repairs, i got the ac wrking now, i must say that this law is the shit when it comes to modifing your car, not to mention the very helpful cooperations from honda wrld...

dont take it to any other dealer if you live int he whittier area, if you go there make sure to ask for ISRIAL he's cool...tell him James witht eh black 2k1 civic with the broken ac sent you...hill help you out for sure ...

Hope this helped you Lates..
I think you did the right thing, but... please spell check, your typing skills are awful.
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the dealer is trying to **** me too! My low beams won't turn on but high beams, parking lights, fog, and turn signals still work. The low beam + isn't getting power (AKA SHORTED OUT SOMEPLACE) so i take it to the dealer and they say "umm we won't be able to cover this under the $1200 service contract you paid for because you have extensive rewiring of your car..." so i asked the dumb ass service manager to show me my "extensive wiring" he tells me the techs are too busy and we'll get in the way. so i keep arguing with him until he takes me back. He asks one of the techs to show me the rewiring. the tech says "he doesn't have anything rewired, just a few added. " so he shows me the wiring for my alarm and gauge pod. I tell him that federal law says that unless he can prove that an aftermarket part caused the problem, they have to fix it under warranty. his tech says "im not saying that the wiring caused the problem. i told him that then he has to fix it and he refused. so here i am printing off this law to give him paper cuts in his ass... im headed back to the dealership for round 2 tomorrow. ANyone have any suggestions???
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HONDA WORLD IN DOWNEY ALSO F-ED ME OVER WHEN I BOUGHT MY CAR!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE W/PROBS WITH THEM!!!!
SOMEONE FROM HONDA DOWNEY DROVE MY CAR AND PUT LIKE OVER 200 MILES ON IT WHEN IT WAS LIKE BRAND NEW WITH ONLY 600 MILES ON IT DURING THE BREAK-IN PERIOD.
I WAS SO PISSED THAT SOMEONE TOOK MY CAR FOR A JOYRIDE.
MY CAR WAS THERE TO HAVE A PROBLEM FIXED, NOT FOR SOME AHOLE WORKING THERE TO STEAL MY CAR OUT FOR A RIDE.
WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY DID??????
I AM SO MAD.
sorry for typing in all caps, but yeah, I'm really mad >>> that's why!!!!!!!!!
I had written about all the ways that Hondaworld in downey ****ed me over, and I thought u guys would have paid attention and not went there!!!!!!!!
Their service sucks!!!!!!!
Them joyriding my car is only ONe of many, many illegal crap they have done to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANGRY NOW.
I could not/did not have any more time to waste with them and did not bother to press charges, etc.
i don't know.
i'm just mad still....
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also, the paint was peeling off the bumper (a DAMN DEFECT THAT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT) when my car was only a few weeks old.
They denied it.
I raised hell.
The service manager finally fixed it, but he was sO DAMN RUDE AND HUNG UP ON ME.
grrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Exclamation whew

whew honda has such great customer service
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