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Originally posted by dragin you can also fing info on the mang. moss. ruling at sema's web site. not just in accordaence with that law and the ruling that go with it. a man or dealer cnt void a warrenty due to an aftermarket part being installed unless the part caused the faliure .... and they have to prove it. if they could then only oem honda parts could ever be used on a car under warr. which would cause a monopoly(sp). if you look in you warrenty info book that cam with the car its says the same thing in the honda book. so if a dealer tells you to go rub one off... then you contact american honda and the general manager of the dealership.......NOT PUT THE CAR BACK TO STOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! doing that would only hurt the whole point.... dealers think that they can get away with that sort of shit if people ALWAYS called em on it it would eventualy die out........
f--k im tired of typing now lol
While this is true, what makes you think that showing someone a law is going to make them do anything. They can still tell you, and probably will, to kiss their arse. You have to enforce that law to give it any meaning. A court of law is required to enforce that law and that requires legal counsel. How the hay do you think they get away with it day in and day out.
It's just a whole lot easier to take the car in stock and not have to get into a pissing match. It's real simple.
I too got a lease for the good deal they had....well when they went to do the credit check on me I said I wont be approved, thats why I have my Dad here to co-sign with me, my sales man said, oh it wont hurt to try...so I did and what do you know! I didnt get approved, so like I told him, my dad had to co-sign...anyway, when it came down to the monthly payments...I was told it went up $27 because my credit didnt get approved! COULDNT HURT TO TRY MY A$$!!! Then she tells me that my warranty is only for 3 years, and I will be charged another $15 a month for the 4th year....Well what happened to that question I asked my sales man three days before about..."The warranty is covered for all four years of the lease?" "Ohhhh yeah ofcourse it is"
So instead of my monthly payments being $180 something, now paying $222 cause Honda likes to screw you up the A$$...Oh it also took me 1 1/2 months to finally get my second key from them, cause I went down there wondering where the hell it was after being told 5 different times it was sent out to me, the parts guy was also going to charge me to make a new key if they couldnt find it!!!!!! when its there damn fault!!!!!grrrrrr >:O Never go to Baron Honda on Long Island
lolz... this is a funny thread... i wonder how many cuss words are in it?
i go to airport marina honda for service, they are pretty cool and service cars with mods... (the guy in the parts store owns a bagged SI coupe and they sell mods, at a dealer LOLz)
i went there to get my a/c installed (hx doesn't come with a/c) and when they put my tsunami front back on, they didn't tuck the splash guard in... the splash guard ended up flying off in the freeway (good thing i was on the right lane)... they replaced it under warranty for me without any hassles...
Originally posted by ShoelessEX I too got a lease for the good deal they had....well when they went to do the credit check on me I said I wont be approved, thats why I have my Dad here to co-sign with me, my sales man said, oh it wont hurt to try...so I did and what do you know! I didnt get approved, so like I told him, my dad had to co-sign...anyway, when it came down to the monthly payments...I was told it went up $27 because my credit didnt get approved! COULDNT HURT TO TRY MY A$$!!! Then she tells me that my warranty is only for 3 years, and I will be charged another $15 a month for the 4th year....Well what happened to that question I asked my sales man three days before about..."The warranty is covered for all four years of the lease?" "Ohhhh yeah ofcourse it is"
So instead of my monthly payments being $180 something, now paying $222 cause Honda likes to screw you up the A$$...Oh it also took me 1 1/2 months to finally get my second key from them, cause I went down there wondering where the hell it was after being told 5 different times it was sent out to me, the parts guy was also going to charge me to make a new key if they couldnt find it!!!!!! when its there damn fault!!!!!grrrrrr >:O Never go to Baron Honda on Long Island
Honda didn't screw you, the finance guy screwed you. Your payment went up $27 because the finance guy bumped your interest rate up to make more money. However, your dad's credit may have been the cause of the increase.
Also, you didn't need the warranty for the 4th year. They sold you an extended warranty! The finance guy really got ya on that deal.
whatever anyone does try to return your car close to stock when bringing it in and dont be afraid to raise hell and alot of time if you complain like a little kid (with a few educated points) theres not alot they can do, bring up the law, talk to honda america, talk to the regional manager but dont let them screw you because you wanted to put a few parts on your car
Originally posted by CIVIC2NV I went to the dealer and i told them that my car pops out of 2nd somtimes and they said we cant fix ure tranny because their are 2 many mods , i had header intake exhaust and no catalyic convertor, can they do that, can i still go back and tell them i want it fixed for free u think?
Their arguement can (and will) be that the parts you added increase the engine's power output, providing more horsepower than stock. They will then say that their transmissions are built for stock power output. Warranty denied. Have fun defending yourself.
Originally posted by KaZeLL Ok you have to read this, first i must say to moderators make this one sticky.
"we dont cover that under warrenty cuz your cars been modifyed" BULLSHIT! ! !
If your tired of the dealership giving your shit about the modifacations done to your ride and not standing by there warrenty then you need to read this link and print it out to shuve it in there face.
Congress wrote a law in 1975 that states Legally , a vehical manufacture cannot void the warrenty on a vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the after market part caused oR contributed to the failer in the vehical ( per the MAGUSON MOSS WARANTY ACT) here is the code (15 U.S.C 2302(c)) .For best results, consider wrking with performance-oriented dealerships with a proven history of wrking with customers. if your vehicale manufacture fails to honor emaissions/warranty claims, contact the EPA at (202) 260-2080 or.
If federal warrenty protection is denied, contact the ftc at (202) 326-3128
there are also LAWERS who will wrk for free for you to get the needed repairs done to your car THATS RIGHT FOR FREE.......
A concumer rights are protected by requiring the manufacter/warrantor to pay for all fees for a successful case
every here this one....
"COUND NOT DUPLICAT CUSTOMERS CONCERN" since the "repair" is not officially recognized by the manufacture, the dealership either writes " could not duplicate" or perhaps " vehicale operating as designed" and send the customer on his way...
READ UP ON YOUR RIGHTS ! ! ! ! DONT LET THEM FU#$ YOU LIKE THERE TRYING TO DO TO ME.
As of now the dealer wont warrenty my AC cuz i have NOS...How does NOS FU#$ up your ac clutch...he said that i must have hit a high RPM when i hit the NOS and broke the ac clutch, Just because you see NOS int he car doesnt mean i use it all the time Besides...MR dumb ass manager. havnt you heard of a little thing called a revlimitor....this prevents the car from exceeding the breaking point of the motor and all its parts...so if i didnt damge the motot then i couldnt have damaged the ac motor or its clucth...Infact they wouldnt even wrking on the damn thing cuz the saw NOS LINES....he didnt see the bottle cuz it was in my garage where its been for months ....
here is the code (15 U.S.C 2302(c)) .For best results, consider wrking with performance-oriented dealerships with a proven history of wrking with customers. if your vehicale manufacture fails to honor emaissions/warranty claims, contact the EPA at (202) 260-2080 or. 
