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Old 08-30-2002   #1 (permalink)
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1st to 2nd shift is jamming.....

I'm not sure what is going on... I start out in first, then go to shift into 2nd, kick the clutch all the way to the floor and shift, but the lever seems to hit something on the way back. It will pull out of first (into neutral) but it gets hung up trying to get into second. It will resist a little bit, then snap into gear (not just fluidly move through the gate) that's the only gear it happens in. going from 2nd to 3rd is no problem. I know theres a lockout to keep you from putting it in 1st while the car is moving more than about 5 mph, could that be sticking out some and grabbing the lever? I'm probably going to end up going to honda with this (if it doesn't work it's way out), but just want to see if I can pin it down on something. It still drives with no problems... I just wonder if it's the car breaking in. To remove this ad, register today for free or log in if already registered!
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I had a '93 accord that had the same problem. The dealer receipt said that they has bled (sp?) the clutch line. Other than that, I have no idea.
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If it's an 01 do a search.

take it to the dealer.
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Sounds like a syncro in your tranny. It should be under warranty as long as you don't have more than 36K on the odo. If you have aftermarket wheels I'd take them off and put the stock ones on. The gearing change from diff. wheels can be used against you.
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The sifting problem you mentioned in exactly like the one I've had with my 02 LX since the 500 mile mark. Eight months, and 6500 miles later, it does the same thing, and frankly I've just stopped paying attention. All the other shifts are smooth and easy, but 1st to 2nd is balky. and it kinda comes and goes to, so much that I can't identify any particular driving condition that does it. the list on edmunds.com used to talk a lot about this.
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my car does the same thing. i thought that it was just how the car was supposed to shift but i really hate it because it makes me grind from 1st to second when i shift near the redline. should i have this looked at??
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I occasionally have this issue. Take it to the dealer. Mine couldn't help me out though. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG] The only thing I do now is stop shifting down to second so gently like you can to 3rd and 4th and 5th. I just throw it to 2nd hard.
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hmmm, maybe thats just how the car is supposed to be....
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I think a short shifter might help if you don't mind a shorter throw to the gears.
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I'll ask again, is it an '01 or an '02?????

Most if not all '01 cars have a problem with the bushings in the shift linkage.

This causes a lot of problems shifting into second and reverse.

Eventually the car will start popping out of secong gear.

This has been extensively covered, infact, Honda took back my car because they couldn't figure out what was going on....they have a tech service bulletin on the issue.

Please Search (unless the material has been blown off the site)
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[hr]Originally posted by: mattskav
I'll ask again, is it an '01 or an '02?????

Most if not all '01 cars have a problem with the bushings in the shift linkage.

This causes a lot of problems shifting into second and reverse.

Eventually the car will start popping out of secong gear.

This has been extensively covered, infact, Honda took back my car because they couldn't figure out what was going on....they have a tech service bulletin on the issue.

Please Search (unless the material has been blown off the site)[hr]
All it would have taken was a look at my signature and you'd see it's a 2002.
I looked before asked and didn't find anything.
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It turns out all of this was cleaned off the sight.

The bushing problem was (supposedly) fixed for '02 - I would take the car to honda and ask them to do the bushings anyway.

And that 01-02 question was to you as well as the others.
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They can't use your aftermarket wheels against you.. I bought my car with rim etc.. on it and any aftermarket parts you buy from honda and have on the car when you sign the papers are covered under the 36,000/warranty. I had a similiar problem with 1 and 2 and then all my gears starting grinding and popping in and out, they replaced the transmission, synchros etc.. no questions asked and didn't mentioned aftermarket wheels once.
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Hi there, I'm not from the States but from Asia. I am experiencing that crunching feeling I feel at my finger tips whenever I shift from 1st to 2nd. Sometimes it goes in very nicely with a positive "tuck" kind of sound. But most of the time it crunches. The worse is my reverse gear. I keep experiencing the same problem when I park. Been to the dealership and they bleeded my clutch system. The problem surfaced again after a few stops at the lights. Can you direct me to the website that has the information and repair instructions for the linkage bushings you were refering to ? Or perhaps something I can show to my dealership as proof of the faulty bushings. Thanks.
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The car is being looked at by the dealer tomorrow. It got to the point where I was totally jammed out of 2nd and was shifting from 1-3. Hopefully they will sort it out. The first thing they did was try to dump it on me that it was the clutch. This is without looking at all. I called them on that... All the other gears engage fine. Besides I'm not sure how the clutch would effect the shifting. It was not with the engagement of the gears. Once it finally dropped into 2nd, it engaged fine. it was a matter of getting the transmission to shift. The only thing clutchwise I can think of is that it isn't disengaging 1st, but like I said, it will go from 1-3. Reverse was also almost useless. After fighting for a while, it would go into reverse, but it was easier to park on a slight incline and let the car roll. Hopefully it will all be sorted out tomorrow. If anyone wonders... the car has 8700 miles on it, so it isn't totally new, but still much too young for serious tranny problems. I hope it's something minor.
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Have you installed a short shifter ? Did it solve the problem ? I just been to the dealership just now. They diagnosed the sticky shift as normal. Since it happens randomly, they don't really care. Can anyone help with this problem ?
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Please keep me posted on the outcome. Thanks.
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The linkage between the pedal and the slave cylinder was misaligned. All fixed and running smoothly.
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Could you elaborate a little on it ? Maybe attach some drawings ? My dealership thinks its normal to crunch a little during shifting.. so long as it doesnt happen all the time [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG] So what was the course of action taken to rectify that fault in the linkage ? One other thing, can you shift from 1st to 2nd very sleekly now ? Meaning you can now get the positive "tuck" kind of sound all the time during the shift ? Thanks.
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I cannot draw anything out because I honestly do not know what it is that they tightened. It does "click" into gear now, like it should. So I'm guessing that was the problem. As far as what they did, from the description I got, they put a wrench to all the linkage joints and they found a loose one. They re-aligned it and tightened it back up. It works the way it used to... It will you will feel it drop into gear (with the radio off and the windows down, you can actually hear the gears shift) and it will smoothly slide into the gate. No more hard pulling to get the car to shift.
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thanks for the info dude. From what I know, only the pedal height can be adjusted. This involves releasing a locknut and turning the push rod connected directly to the clutch master cylinder. I will be bringing my car down to the dealership again for the third time tomorrow. Request that they adjust the clucth pedal height and check the alignment that you mentioned.
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Dude, can you get the detailed TSB on this problem from them ? I need it badly as evidence for my Honda dealership about this problem. Could you help me make a trip down to them and get a photocopied version and email it to me ?? Alldata website (http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/012449AI.html) has kept the detailed instrutions out of the web due to some reasons. Please help. Thanks.
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try pumping the clutch, obviously not to where it stalls out. I had that occassional problem, sometimes when I would put in 1st, and sometimes shifting in second. try that and tell me if it makes a difference. My Dad showed me this technique when i first learned stick about 3 or 4 years ago, works on all cars.
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I wonder which manufacturer of cars would require the driver to pump the clutch during every gear shift. Its not about going round a wall in this case, but how to bring that wall in your way down. Thanks for the advise though.
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