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Dude I totally feel you. I wanna get rid of my 2k2 LX too, my tranny needs to be replaced, I just found out today that my 2nd, 3rd, and reverse, are totally f**ked up. It started on my birthday, April 23, when my 3rd gear started grinding when I tried to put it in to gear. Honda is tryin to decide if I was the reason that it was messed up or if it was a manufacturers default. I totally baby my car, and I dont drive it to hell, so there's no reason why it should be messed up.
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Why would a little rattle bother you enough to get rid of your car? What has this world gotten to! Maybe i appreciate my Civic a little more because i had a lemon of a MAZDA prior. The tranny broke at 60K, then again at 78K, i wont even go into details of what i went through with the Mazda. I would take the civic and it's rattles any day! And also, just because you and your friends and 'everyone you know' thinks that the Civic is POS doesnt mean it's a bad car and it doesnt mean that Honda is a terrible company. Think of how many Civics are made and how many happy customers there are!! I don't know a single person that had something bad happen with their Honda, but then again that's my experience and that's the reason i got this car in the first place: because it's reliable. Good luck with your next next car!
*by the way: sorry if this post sounds mean, i just wanted to add my 2 cents and defend my Civic, because i LOVE IT*
I just started getting that hissing noise when I engage the clutch. It gets really loud and sounds terrible! I'm bringing it to honda tommorow to get my seals done around my window and the rubber strip that goes across the roof of the car. Anyone else get that hissing noise with the clutch?
HONDA is by no means a horrible car company but I think alot of people feel as though the HONDA badge guarantees reliabilty and quality. That is their reputation. Problem is, this may not be a moniker that they should be known for anymore. Only time will tell.
<< I just started getting that hissing noise when I engage the clutch. It gets really loud and sounds terrible! I'm bringing it to honda tommorow to get my seals done around my window and the rubber strip that goes across the roof of the car. Anyone else get that hissing noise with the clutch? >>
Hissing sound? Like air hissing, or do you mean a squeaking sound coming from the clutch, and how long does it last for?
Squeaking clutch I've heard of... a hissing clutch is something new to me.
<< Why would a little rattle bother you enough to get rid of your car? What has this world gotten to! Maybe i appreciate my Civic a little more because i had a lemon of a MAZDA prior. The tranny broke at 60K, then again at 78K, i wont even go into details of what i went through with the Mazda. I would take the civic and it's rattles any day! And also, just because you and your friends and 'everyone you know' thinks that the Civic is POS doesnt mean it's a bad car and it doesnt mean that Honda is a terrible company. Think of how many Civics are made and how many happy customers there are!! I don't know a single person that had something bad happen with their Honda, but then again that's my experience and that's the reason i got this car in the first place: because it's reliable. Good luck with your next next car! >>
This has been repeated at nauseam(sp?)but here we go again for those of us that don't listen to well. Not all the people that want to get rid of their cars want to do so soley for the reason of the rattles and minor problems. I'm sorry your tranny on your Mazda was "broke" at 60,000 miles but how would you feel if your tranny was "broke" when you bought the car? How would you feel if your brakes were so sh!tty at 5,000 miles you had to have them resurfaced(which might I add did not solve the problem) and then ground again at like 9,000 miles (still didn't fix the problem) and the car company did not see a defect and refused to fix or better yet replace them? It only took 12,500 miles of arguing and fighting and threatening and calling managers ans supervisors to finally have the cr*ppy brakes replaced. What the hell is the bumper to bumper warrenty for? How would you feel if the Supplementary Restraint System was "broke"? Or your alternator was broke at 10,000 miles? Or better yet having to sit at the dealership damn near daily because your car has yet another thing that is "broke"
<< I don't know a single person that had something bad happen with their Honda, but then again that's my experience and that's the reason i got this car in the first place: because it's reliable. >>
Reliable and 7th gen Civic are not two words that I would use in the same paragraph yet the same sentance. As far as Honda is concerned they need to take a very close look at their new procedures, policies, employees, craftsmanship, and general customer service. When a company creates something and KNOWS it is defective and refuses to fix the problem there is something VERY wrong with that. Honda is one that has progressivly gone down hill and the rate of that it drastically increasing. Honda 10 years ago GREAT company even five years ago good company but this last year the company has taken advantage of their customers and are doing so more and more. I'm sorry but the proof is everywhere that this generation Civic is awful. Motor Trend, Road and Track and Car and Driver are all VERY Honda bias companies and for them to be saying the things they have about Honda lately tells you there is poor production involved with Honda. Ford has beat out Honda on sales so has Toyota (by far). Toyota knew there was a problem with the 00 Celica and when their customers brought it to their attention there was no question the problems were fixed IMMEDIALTY AND FREE OF CHARGE. That is a small amount of the reasons people want to get rid of their "precious" Hondas.
Why would they care, their reputation is so good at this point that they feel they are above reproach. Whenever I tell people tht I haven't been happy with the quality of my HONDA and the numerous problems I've experienced they say to me "but, it's HONDA." I basically just say, "yeah, I don't know what's happened." They reply "that's a shame"
I don't think the bias in the car magazines is as much as it used to be. The new CIVIC didn't get overwhelming praise in recent issues. The cars I see that seem to be on the rise are the PROTEGE, FOCUS and ELANTRA.
Congrats to BlueBirdz22, Speedy and to any of you who were able to move on from the car and put it in the past. I hope those of you who are happy with the car don't encounter as many problems as several of us have.
Car magazines are losing credibility, cause they kinda bashed the civics and praised the focus and look what happened. SVT focus got recalled cause they're having probs with it. Honda's arn't perfect but trust me if you settle and buy a mitsu, ford, nissan etc, in a year you may decide to sell it and the resale is gonna be so crappy that you're gonna be stuck with it, + its problems.
Hondas problem is like the LA Lakers-everyone expects perfection at this point, and if they dont get it they get pissed off.
I have to agree that interior rattles are really not an important thing or a reason to give up a car. In my case, my auto 2k1 EX doesnīt have any of the engine problems that Iīve seen reported here, it is very reliable considering the driving conditions of Mexico City.
Where I do have a problem is with the rattles. Not all cars have rattles, or at least not other Hondas. I bought my car based on my brotherīs 2k. I really liked the car because it is so carefully put together, not a single rattle inside, excellent engine, etc. My fatherīs Accord is the same, perfectly assembled. As far as the 2k1 and 2k2, the only thing Honda has to solve is improving the interior assembly and getting better quality shocks.
What causes so many complaints about rattles is that it was Honda itself who got us used to the idea that compact cars can be built with high quality. If you had rattles in other brands (i.e. neons) that would be considered normal.
I just hope Honda takes better care with the new Accord (2003) and gets the message that fixing little stupid things will make the civic the best car in its category again
wsup with the 2k2 lx models.. everytime i shift my lx seems to jerk back or seems to be failing... same goes for these dudes with the same year and model.. everything is all good but shifting is the problem [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
The latest MOTOR TREND rates the new COROLLA higher than the CIVIC LX. We all know how biased MOTOR TREND tends to be when it comes to HONDA. It seems like they get kudos just for having the HONDA logo on them. In my opinion, HONDA is slipping. I can see why. Both HONDA and TOYOTA are grossly overrated.