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First off. I never set out to sue American HONDA. Secondly, I don't think my problems compare to 2Cute's and I've even told her that. Thirdly, I have had the seat fixed three times and now two different HONDA dealers, a factory rep a third party technician and American HONDA have all told me that the wiggling and sliding of the seat is "a part of the design of the car". This leads me to believe that HONDA has dropped their standards and is willing to put out sub par equipment.
Lastly, I agree with you Ronin the suspension and air bag sensors are repairable. The air bag sensor has been recently repaired and I have to take the car in for the suspension in a few days.
You just have to realize that when you make the decision to buty a HONDA you don't expect to have to constantly return to the dealer to have everything tweaked and fixed every month. I don't think I'm being unfair and I think I have every right to complain.
You buy these cars thinking that repairs will be minimal because they're known for their reliability. My last CIVIC was nothing but oil changes every 300, that's it. the 6th gen was a much better car. I think most HONDA owners who've owned both will tell you that. That in itself is scary.
Finally, I don't care what kind of a problem it is, if I have to keep going back to the dealer to have things fixed, it's a problem. I don't care if it's a screw that falls out of the fuçking thing. The 7thgeneration CIVIC is a disaster, just read any comparison review in MOTOR TREND or CAR AND DRIVER, it never fares well. When A FORD FOCUS and MAZDA PROTEGE are given higher reviews you have fallen off. CIVIC used to be KING.
Also, ask any HONDA technician about the 7thgen Civic's as compared to the 6th gen CIVIC's. Even they will tell you that the amount of complaints on this car is much greater than that of previous models.
If you have no problem bringing your car in all the time than more power to you, you have more tolerance than I. I am a busy man, I have a life and spending it in a HONDA DEALERSHIP service department is not my idea of a good time.
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ya every car is different...my civic has an attitude problem..one of those rebelious type. I think civic hates my guts![IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG]
maybe is because were not connecting or communicating as much. wut do u think?
I used to work at a Honda dealership and then an Acura dealership. Everyone should buy the 100k warranty with their civic for less than $700 because YOU WILL NEED IT and the dealer should be willing to sell the warranty for that price. Right now there are about 20 different recalls on the civic that they are not telling you about, nor are they legally obligated to tell you about. Maybe we can find someone to do an F.Y.I. like they do a D.I.Y. on the recalls.
<< And Honda believes in their cars so much, I'm sure they will give you Edward's or Blue Book trade in value, if you were to trade it in for an Accord. >>
no never they told me they would repurchase it for the used car value. I think not I wish I had never bought this car. My life would have been so much simpler.
Just so you know your not the only one. My Car shocks the hell out of me whenever i get out. the plus side is if don't touch the metal when i step out and then go give my gf a kiss she gets the s h i t shocked out of her through my lips. Thats weird but it happens all the time. don't know a fix for that one...
I have to agree with the people complaining here, and I guess I 'm one of them. After having driven my '97 DX for 4.5yrs and 141k mi. without a problem, my '01 EX is disappointing. I 've been to the dealer 4 times so far which is not bad compared to other people but it is something I have never experienced with my other Hondas & Acuras before. I 've had an Integra for 3yrs now and have never been to the dealer for anything and I officially race the car all the time! I also beat the crap out of my '97 Civic DX before.. Surprisingly I 've done nothing but babying this '01 EX and it's the one giving me problems. These are my 4 trips to the dealer, most of them accompanied by Chk.Eng.light
- Dealer had gas tank dropped to replace faulty clamp that was letting gas evaporate.
- Dealer has replaced evap. shut valve.
- Dealer installed evap. bypass valve
- Alternator started making loud noises! Dealer replaced it.
I have not bothered the dealer with the squeaks and rattles yet and probaly won't ever because my time is precious and don't like wasting it at a dealer's waiting area.
My motor has gotten very loud lately and at 3k RPM the DB levels are what they were at 4K. When accelerating over 5K RPM the car kind of "kicks" a couple of times where it never did that before. Started doing it around 24k mi. (got 26k now).
The rotors are either warped already or I need to get some good aftermarket pads because the steering wheel shakes like a 'motha' when depressing the brake pedal. The engine compartment looks like I went off-roading for a week and it has every imagineable road debris in it except maybe road kill.
I did purchase the extended warranty and I 'm glad I did because I knew I was buying a new gen. car with a totally new motor than previous gens (gens 5 & 6 had mostly identical motors & parts). Talked the guy down to $690 for 100k mi./0 ded. Don't know how many of you have owned previous Civics but this new gen is unlike the previous 2-3 gens in reliability and that's a fact. If you can live it with it fine, but this is not what I expected from Honda as a previous Civic owner. If Toyota comes out with 2-dr Corolla, watch the Civic sales drop. Went to 2 different Toyota dealerships with my sister and the sticker was considerably less than Civic EX even with extra options like alloy wheels and spoiler! Mark my words. This is going to be known as an undesireable Civic generation and will not hold its value as well as old gens. Having said that, if I get one more problem this year, the car is history
vtecharry: from what you just posted, I am pretty sure you are the same only1harry from the edmunds civic forum. Am I right?
Wow, I never knew you had so many problems with your EX. I asked you how you liked your Civic a while ago on the Edmunds site, and you said that you loved it, and that it was better than your 97 DX in many ways.
Howcome all of a sudden you're ready to get rid of it? From all your posts on the edmunds site, I had the feeling you were very satisfied with your 2k1.
Hi Ronin, yes it's me from Edmund's. Did you finally get your new shocks? I think I 'll try and brake mine so I can get new ones. The bunny hopping and bouncing is getting worse in mine.
I have actually not posted that I 've been happy with my Civic in about 2-3 mos now. I actually posted a couple of days ago on Edmund's that the '01 Civic (not sure about '02s) has average reliability. I guess the latest thing, the bad alternator really made me think about my Civic's reliability. I 'm basically saying that if my 4 visits to the dealer in just 8mos, is any indication of the months & years to come, then I don't think I want to own this car for the whole duration that I intended to keep it. You must understand that my self and others, as previous Civic owners are not used to to trips to the dealer and average to below average reliability that we are experiencing with this new gen. Civic. We 're accustomed to many troublefree years and ease of mind when we drove our old Civics. I 'm sorry to say this is not the case now. Although I try to stay very objective and my first 2-3 visits I maintained and open mind but this bad alternator 1-2 weeks ago just started to change my mind. I can't help it. I still like the car but if things keep braking, I just can't take off from work all the time to get them fixed..
Ha, I knew it was you Harry! Too many coincidences in your posts ... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
Damn, sorry to hear that you're having those problems with your car. As for my leaking front left strut, my dealer was finally able to get the part in, and now it's fixed. I decided not to go with the Konis for 2 reasons: way expensive, and I did not want to void the warranty on the rest of my suspension components.
It took almost 2 months from the time my dealer diagnosed the leaking strut, to the time they got it fixed (but that was mostly Honda's fault for holding up that part), but now it rides almost like the day I first got it. Got a free 4-wheel alignment out of it too.
Other than the strut, the only other problems I've had were interior rattles (most of which I fixed myself), and a slightly loose seat back. My mileage is almost exactly as advertised, and I had no problems at all during another harsh winter up here.
So after exactly one year of ownership, I have to say that I am pretty satisfied with my car.
All I can say is wait until your car is in the dealership weekly and Honda keeps telling you they refuse to fix your car. Or they treat you like sh!t. I hate when people think you are stupid and treat you that way. I swear if another Honda Tech calls me "hunny" or "sweety" i will beat their a$$es. It got to the point a few times I had to walk away from the tech for a minute or two otherwise he would have been knocked on his a$$ bleeding. Hopefully your car doesn't have anymore problems but, if it does (and I have faith it will) i feel for you and all I can say is sue the sh!t out of American Honda. And as I have said a million times IF you got a good Honda Civic more power to you.
