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Old 01-08-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

The Impact does take it off fast and easy. But I don't recommend using it to put it back on.
So you still need the orther tool.

The polly needs to be correctlly torqued.

You don't want to brake the bolt, stripe it out, or have the polly fall off.



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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

oh crap.
Think I have a problem.
My friend and I were looking at my car. I was showing him my cam gear.
I noticed that on the firewall side the timing belt felt tight. on the other side it seems loose. humm..

Can it be loose on one side? Is it normal?
Is it posable?
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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

Grade A DIY, Thanks!
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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

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oh crap.
Think I have a problem.
My friend and I were looking at my car. I was showing him my cam gear.
I noticed that on the firewall side the timing belt felt tight. on the other side it seems loose. humm..

Can it be loose on one side? Is it normal?
Is it posable?
1: Spellcheck is your friend.

2: What you describe is most likely normal, but how loose is "loose?" On the firewall side, the belt is wrapped around the tensioner and the water pump pulleys, so there is less of a slack run for it - it is definitely normal for that side to be tighter. The front side of the belt is one big long span between the crank and cam pulleys, so it will have a little bit of play, maybe 1/2" or so. However, if you push on the belt and you can get it to move so far as to touch the side of the belt on the tensioner (1" or more), it probably is a bit loose and you may have either installed the tensioner wrong (didn't pull pin, forgot to torque tensioner nut to 33 lbf, forgot to spring tensioner spring up) or you didn't replace the tensioner and it is going bad.
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Grade A DIY, Thanks!
Appreciate it. Always glad to teach. Hook a brotha up with some rep.
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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

hrmmm i might know the picture girll....but im debating this install myself! dayyum hard stuff! you got it off your computer?!
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hrmmm i might know the picture girll....but im debating this install myself! dayyum hard stuff! you got it off your computer?!
lol. Got the picture girl from a very popular website... that's all I'll say :-)

It isn't that hard to do, but it is time consuming. Again, the hardest part is getting the damn crank pulley bolt off - after that it is pretty easy.
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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

For some additional info here is how Alldata says it should be done....

Timing belt replacement on an D17
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For some additional info here is how Alldata says it should be done....

Timing belt replacement on an D17
Good stuff - Those pics / instructions are interesting because they are straight from the computerized honda factory service manual someone posted on rapidshare a while ago. I didn't know alldata was allowed to straight up copy the honda manual and sell subscriptions.

Do they pay royalties to the manufacturers? How much does an alldata subscription cost?
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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

Nice job. I'm going to be doing a timing belt this spring. Sweet.
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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

Quick question I am going to do this soon on my civic , do you need to buy a auto tension, or can you reuse the other one, if so how do you re tighten the timing belt to what level of Lbs ( using the Alan key)
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Quick question I am going to do this soon on my civic , do you need to buy a auto tension, or can you reuse the other one, if so how do you re tighten the timing belt to what level of Lbs ( using the Alan key)
Yeah, you can re-use the auto-tensioner. Some honda guys say it needs to be changed every other timing belt. Personally, I'll just pay the $70 bucks for a new one for peace of mind, and I was always taught to change everything just in case. I can definitely understand re-use in that it is an expensive damn part.

If you aren't taking off the tensioner, there's no need to torque or do anything to it. The allen key just rotates the tensioner away from the belt so it doesn't give any tension whilst you are threading the belt around the camshaft, water pump, etc. Release the allen key, and the tensioner will automatically tension the belt properly. Hence the name auto-tensioner...

The torquing procedure on the tensioner is only if you are taking it off and installing a new one.
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Do they pay royalties to the manufacturers? How much does an alldata subscription cost?
You would have to ask alldata, and yes im sure it is expensive.
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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

Did you use honda parts or another company , i was thinking of geting a kit on ebay.
What do you think or what about autozone or honda deller

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Re: Timing Belt DIY 2

I used OEM Honda Parts from Majestic. I think the total for everything was something around $170, including the tensioner set which is not included in the links on eBay that you posted. I didn't buy spark plug seals, tough so that would probably push the price up a little bit.

I can't speak for the reliability of non-oem parts as I haven't used them. I think some people on the forum have said they use them, and I'm sure they'll chime in.

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