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If it is bad enough, it can cause a whole crap-load of problems.
As for aftermarket bearing, nobody has any. But i have been working for the past several months to remedy this. I am working with several bearing companies and also distributors (one of them is the main distributor for northrop) to get some high speed bearings with a metal cage instead of a plastic one.
Once i figure out what all bearings i need to replace the crap in my trannies, i will test it out and let everyone know the part numbers and prices. I am really worried about my tranny. I am trying to make over 400 whp on my D17, so i know it wont hold up.
The best way to make the tranny live as long as possible is to shift easily. Do not power shift and do not speed shift. It is very hard on the bearings.
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I actually double clutch and rev match with EVERY shift. The dbl clutch makes it easy to do that because of the time factor too. So I'm damn sure that I didn't do it. Some people also suggested that it's the shift... damn. I'm talking about the two cables that you can see on the top of the trans. Are those hard to replace? I may bring it in for warrenty work because of the syncro or (if I can convince my dad to help me) buy an 04 trans and hook it up. Those are direct bolt up, right? What do you think? Warrenty would be $150 but how much would an 04 trans cost from like a boneyard?
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i've been driving with a squeaky clutch for 20000 km now... still no problems... i just turn the radio up...
oh and i bump start all the time too
edit: no wait make that 38000 km now, i get squeaks clutching in and out in N... i hope honda can fix it for me when i print out this thread ;D
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Last edited by philmcneal; 03-31-2006 at 04:08 AM.
I was at my Honda dealership about a month ago complaining about a tinny rattle when releasing the clutch (about at the friction point) when going from stop to moving in 1st or from 1st to 2nd at low rpms. At first I thought it was something metallic rattling next to the engine, as engines tend to shudder a bit if not given enough gas when clutching. Anyhow, the technician took it for a spin and could not reproduce the noise. I then went out with him and showed him what it was and how to reproduce it. Then I went back inside as two technicians went for a ride. To make a long story short they took the car back into the service bay, looked at it for a bit and then diagnosed the noise as "clutch chatter". Explaining that as the clutch wears you may get some noise, it is not immediately necessary but the only way to fix it is to replace the clutch. The car only has 46,000 kms on it and I don't drive it like an idiot. (riding the clutch, etc...) I also have the extended warranty (not that it matters as I called Honda and they will not do anything).
The thing is I am not completely convinced that the problem is clutch chatter. Sometimes I hear this noise when not clutching at all - just travelling along at low rpms in 2nd or 1st gear. It makes a rattling metallic noise seemingly coming frome behind the dash in front of the driver for a few seconds and then goes away.
I'm not sure what to do, just keep driving it or what? I'd love to get rid of the noise as it makes the car sound like something is loose. Does anyone here have any idea if it could be anything other than clutch chatter? Everything else seems to be fine, no slippage or anything. Please help! A new clutch at 46,000 kms is rediculous.
GOOD NEWS! I finally got a chance to take my car to another dealership. I went in and played dumb. Didn't tell them I already had it looked at elsewhere. Went for a ride with the tech and he said "there's no way this is clutch chatter" (just as i suspected). We drove around a bit then stopped, he popped the hood, got out and started poking around. It seems that when I had a faulty clutch master replaced - under warranty - the 'other dealership' connected the hydraulic line such that it would rattle against other parts in the vicinity when the engine is torqued. So simple, and only took a simple hand adjustment to fix! (he bent it into a better position) Now I can't believe the very dealership that installed the new clutch master and created the rattle was telling me I wore the clutch out and that is the reason for the noise! They basically made me feel like I don't know how to drive standard and said the only way to fix it is to replace the clutch. This is a perfect example of the reason why you should often seek a second opinion. Good luck to everyone else!
how much time would it take to replace the INput Shaft Bearing? I got a new clutch and flywheel to install, but I need to take apart the bell housing to access the bearing, right? shit.
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you have to actually take the cluster gears out to replace the bearing. It is extremely difficult.
son of a bitch.
probably the best to take it to a trans shop only, like an aamco or whatever? i just got a flywheel and exedy clutch to go in when they replace the bearing. ugh, ill probably have to remove my lip kit to so they can get under the car. shit.
what if i get a MT from a yard donored from a 03-05 ex? would it likely have the same issue?
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my sedan is currently at 54K. it's making the whistling noise just like OP explained with the input shaft bearing. my question is, how important is this problem? do i have to address it asap?
the only problem right now is that my car is covered under the "national" warranty until 60K (NOT honda care). the dealer I went in told me that the input shaft bearing is NOT covered under warranty because it's just like brake pads, wear-by-use parts. they said that it might costs me up to $800 if they opened it up and the warranty does not want to cover the cost....
even my local well-known performance shop (not stealership) quoted me 8.5 hours labor to change the damn bearing.
well, I figured out maybe its better for me to upgrade my clutch altogether when evereything is opened! lol!
i'm thinking of upgrading my clutch to Exedy Stage 1 organic clutch.....along with that, the throwout bearing will be replaced (included in clutch package?)
Is the whistling you are describing for this problem a constant whistling sound or is it a short whistle? Also does it happen all the time? My noise is very random. Hasn't done it today yet.
My car has been doing a whistling noise lately. I'll have to pay attention to what is going on when it happens next, but I think I remember it doing it as I come up to a stop sign and stop (clutch in). It is pretty loud, I can hear it over the radio. It's not brakes or anything like that. It sounds like someone using a slide whistle because it starts out low and gets higher pitched towards the end.
I'm going to try and record it on my mp3 player next time it happens.
right now, mine is not that loud....however, it's constant whistling and you can always hear it at idle....even during driving, you can also listen to the whistling...
it's not that loud though...my stereo can easily kill the noise during driving, hehe.
now in my situation, since it's the input shaft bearing, the noise WILL GO AWAY when i push the clutch pedal in.....
I don't think this one's been covered, though I may be wrong, but I'll ask anyway. My clutch makes a creak/click type sound when I let the clutch out. It does this whether the car is running or not. It makes no sound when depressing the clutch pedal, but clicks about halfway up when releasing the clutch. It's not a constant sound, just one click. It only seems to happen after the car has been driven for a while, and doesn't usually do it when its cold. I originally thought it was just the pivot on the pedal, but i've check, and the noise seems to be coming from the area of the transmission under the hood. The car has about 30k on it, the clutch is still tight, and begins to engage only a couple inches off the floor. The behavior of the clutch doesn't change much when it's warmed up enough to make the noise. I'll get it in to Honda in the next week or two, but I have 3 questions. a)is it going to destroy anything in the next 300 or so miles before i can get it serviced? b)is this normal and just something i can lube myself without ripping the car about and save myself a trip to the dealer? and c) does anyone know if the clutch and all the bearings and stuff are covered for the duration of the 3yr/36k warranty?? Thanks for helping out the new guy.
