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Old 12-10-2004   #91 (permalink)
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02 Civic with bad struts

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I believe 03-05 is using the 55mm struts just like the RSX.
I have an 02 Civic that had to have it's struts replaced after 2 years (June 2004) and about 60 000 km (about 40 000 miles). I know of two others that have had to have their front struts replaced too. I realize now from this forum that it is not an isolated incident. My question and concern is that if they replaced them with the same struts won't they fail again (as I have heard of some people with 01s having multiple replacements). Could they possible have replaced the struts with the larger (55 mm) struts of the 03-05s and RSX (would larger struts fit and solve the issue?)....I haven't read any failures in those cars but they are newer. Or is this a suspension design problem that will cause me to replace struts every two years? Thanks for any input you guys have
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i haven't noticed any of these problems so far with my 01 EX
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I have an 02 Civic that had to have it's struts replaced after 2 years (June 2004) and about 60 000 km (about 40 000 miles). I know of two others that have had to have their front struts replaced too. I realize now from this forum that it is not an isolated incident. My question and concern is that if they replaced them with the same struts won't they fail again (as I have heard of some people with 01s having multiple replacements). Could they possible have replaced the struts with the larger (55 mm) struts of the 03-05s and RSX (would larger struts fit and solve the issue?)....I haven't read any failures in those cars but they are newer. Or is this a suspension design problem that will cause me to replace struts every two years? Thanks for any input you guys have
I think there is a TSB bulletin out on the early civics and that the struts where simply to small and that they where to be replaced for free with the larger sturts (55mm) in the case of failure. Howwever, this is only for the US and I'm not sure how Canada worked with this. The smaller struts where found in the 01 and early '02 civics.

So basically if you had your struts replace in '03 or later, they should have been the larger (55mm) struts presuming you had it done by the dealer. If they where not replaced with the 55mm, go back and complain to the dealer. If you went to an after market place like National Tire and Battery or something like that (other than Honda), all I can say is that I feel sorry for you and the money it costs you. You could go back and ask what size strut they put on you car, but you may not get much help. You could try to get TSB bulliten and say they where not properly informed and sold you the wrong product for your car, but it may not work.
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Thanks, I did have them replaced at the dealer in June 2004. I just looked at my work order and I noticed that it says that they replaced the "stuts" and not "strut assembly" or anything like that. Wouldn't the larger struts require the whole thng to be replaced not just the strut cartridge (or would it have said strut cartridge if that is all they replaced)? Do you know typically how long a dealer warranties replacement parts such as the struts?
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I have an 02 Civic that had to have it's struts replaced after 2 years (June 2004) and about 60 000 km (about 40 000 miles). I know of two others that have had to have their front struts replaced too. I realize now from this forum that it is not an isolated incident. My question and concern is that if they replaced them with the same struts won't they fail again (as I have heard of some people with 01s having multiple replacements). Could they possible have replaced the struts with the larger (55 mm) struts of the 03-05s and RSX (would larger struts fit and solve the issue?)....I haven't read any failures in those cars but they are newer. Or is this a suspension design problem that will cause me to replace struts every two years? Thanks for any input you guys have
I have a 2001 ex sedan which I bought used about 1 year ago with 63k miles. It now has 90k miles; I put on about 30k miles per year. I have had the following problems: squeaky clutch pedal, driver seat is loose, cable broke to remote release to gas door, the honda H emblem on the front falls off when I drop the hood down, I have a rattle in the right side front door, and my front struts are leaking oil and my mechanic has told me they need to be replaced although the car still is handling well.
Although I have 90k miles on the car, since I bought this car used, I have no idea how many miles are on the struts, and I have the same concern about replacing the struts with unreliable ones. I have looked around for a reliable replacement strut, and have located on tirerack the kyb gr-2 but I am concerned that they may be too harsh. Does anyone have any experience with this brand? I have owned 3 hondas before including an 1982 civic which I stopped using at 170k (still running), a 1992 accord wagon which lasted until I traded it in at 226k for the 2001 civic, and my wife has a 1995 odyssey with 126k. On all my prior hondas I never had to replace any suspension part, since I mostly do highway driving, so I am worried about the 2001 civic, but I like the car, it handles okay, with the b.f. goodrich traction t/a s. So I am looking for some advice. I am loyal to honda but my loyalty is being tested.
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I have a '05 Civic with 7,400 miles, here's my list:

- rocking drivers seat
- noisy rear suspension
- just developed what sounds like lifter noise, but only when at idle. Give it a good rev and it stops for about 15 seconds and then comes back. Shut the car off and immediately start it back up and it won't be there. Will eventually fade back in though.
- sometimes my keyless entry won't work

This is my first Honda and I am not impressed. I had a '97 Neon that had better build quality and it's motor was quieter at 160,000 miles than this Civic is at 7,400 miles.

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I have a '05 Civic with 7,400 miles, here's my list:

- rocking drivers seat
- noisy rear suspension
- just developed what sounds like lifter noise, but only when at idle. Give it a good rev and it stops for about 15 seconds and then comes back. Shut the car off and immediately start it back up and it won't be there. Will eventually fade back in though.
- sometimes my keyless entry won't work

This is my first Honda and I am not impressed. I had a '97 Neon that had better build quality and it's motor was quieter at 160,000 miles than this Civic is at 7,400 miles.

Paul
The engine sound that you say is the lifters, is actually the valves. It is nothing to worry about, I've had four civic's now, and all of them have done it, 3 Accords now and they all do it too, including the '04 Accord I have. It's a common Honda thing, they use a stiffer material on the valve seats than other companies, so it sound wierd, but lasts far longer.

The rocking drivers seat can be fixed at the dealer, just let them know and they should take care of it for you. If all else fails, get the TSB's it should be on there and if you know the number of the TSB and all that they can not turn you down (although I've never heard of a Honda dealer turning anyoen away for somehting that isn't racing related).

Noisy rear suspension, I didn't figure out before I got rid of my civic. But if you live in a cold area, the struts may get to cold and creek for the first 10-15 minutes or longer untill they get warmed up. You could ask the dealer about that too, I would be interested in hearing what they say.

Haven't heard of the keyless not working for anyone, yet so I can't offer any advise.
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yea i also have the rocky seat syndrome,,,,lol......but thats it for my 02 2dr ex.,,,i have 33,000 miles on it now.
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I don't have any of these problems...the only problem i have is that the doors don't match the rest of the body. I have the magnessium color and the doors are a few shades darker than the rest of the body, not to mention they don't follow the line that runs down the entire side of the body, they are slighty off the line. Do you think the dealership will fix this?
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I don't have any of these problems...the only problem i have is that the doors don't match the rest of the body. I have the magnessium color and the doors are a few shades darker than the rest of the body, not to mention they don't follow the line that runs down the entire side of the body, they are slighty off the line. Do you think the dealership will fix this?
Can't hurt to complain to them about it. Sounds like something happened to your car before you bought it and they had to replace the door
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My car was brand new...when I went to the dealership it had 3 miles on it. If those &*()^ lied to me imma beat there ass
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My car was brand new...when I went to the dealership it had 3 miles on it. If those &*()^ lied to me imma beat there ass
It may have happend during loading the car or something. I know some onw that bought a Volvo and had three transmision put in it. Found out after the third tranny that the car rolled off the truck (as in some one drove it up the loading ramps wrong and the car flipped) and bent the frame. The car had a messed up frame and kept twisting off the trannies. Volvo gave him full refund for his car and gave him the same model car for free. He was very happy with the deal, but his ar was in the shop for 4 months the first year he owned the lemon one.
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OH SH^T....ok time to make some phone calls....(am I allowed to curse here?)
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OH SH^T....ok time to make some phone calls....(am I allowed to curse here?)
LOL, a door isn't what I call a serious problem though that will cause massive car failure. I would just talk to the dealer and see if they willing to fix it up if you think it is that bad. I wouldn't go crazy though, or at least untill they decide not to fix it. It is also very possible that the doors are not painted with the body at the factory. And perhap your car rolled out while the doors where painted with one batch while the body was painted with a different batch on paint. There are endless possiblities.

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Man I paid for the car...I want it to be in perfect condition!!! LoL...yea i just called them they said to bring it down and have the asistant manager look at it. From there they will decide what to do.
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