Dude_

Wow, good job, VW!

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/about-us/futures/xl1

lowlife9

yes now only if they didn't cost $150,000+ dollars.

Brandon@fattysmotorsports

150,000? no thank you!

Dude_

I'm only focused on how such highly efficient cars can be a reality.

lowlife9

GM had the EV1 20 years ago it got 100mpg 0-60 in 8 seconds air ride suspension weighed 1,400 kg and only cost $35,000 and that was with lead acid batteries ??? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

Dude_

Wow! Thanks for sharing.

Dude_

So, it's a suspected self sabotage by GM due to insufficient profits. Wow, what a shame it is what it is, presently. I suspect it's going to take generations to adopt a new mindset.

rocky_mountain_

That's awesome to see cars moving into the future. But this is honda forum, they'll have a 400mpg car you'll see. Japanese car scientist are way smarter. Can't wait till the day we'll be driving 300mpg though. Fill up like every other two months lol.

Brandon@fattysmotorsports

The technology is there but never come open to public use. They are making to much money on oil and gas.

Dude_

Hey, this thing gets better gas mileage than my Civic and it can fly... driventofly.com

sdaidoji

iTrader: (1)

the EV cars can live their whole life without using any gas if well used. (such as the GM volt with a small petrol engine)
The problem is that it does not account for the miles per ton of coal when you plug it to recharge on the electric grid...

Dude_

I do believe that data is there, just haven't bother digging for it. With electricity also being developed (hydro, solar, etc), I'm sure the pros and cons are in favor of EV when compared to fossil fuels.

lowlife9

fuel cells are the real future not plug ins and most if not all major car manufacturers already make them.

Dude_

Maybe even magnetic engines that enable floating like the Hoverboard.

lowlife9

there has to be a certain type of metal under the hoverboard for that to work so that's out of the question for now. what about steam or compressed air powered cars the the TaTa ???

Stock 99

I've thought for years that the hydrogen fuel cell was the future of cars but it really doesn't seem like anybody is really moving in that direction. The newest evolution I've seen in the last year is Mercedes, Porsche, McLaren all making electric cars with gas engines as generators. Say what you want but it's pretty commonly known the Mercedes S class features of today will be what people commonly use in 10 years.

I also agree with sdaidoji...when you look beyond the electrical outlet the actual electricity comes from far less environmentally friendly sources than people realize in a lot of cases.

lowlife9

yeah but those super cars are using electric motors to gain performance not really for economic or environmental reasons. also with fuel cells you can also run your entire house with your car they make so much power you can supply electricity to your whole block. but your rite we need a more viable means of making hydrogen as of rite now most of it comes from natural gas which comes from fracking. making hydrogen is still in its infancy but new methods will evolve.

Matteo

iTrader: (1)

wow, so 795 kilograms = 1752.67 pounds. that's very lightweight! imagine if our civics were that light...sadly, this new VW stock is about as fast as a stock civic lol 0-60mph: 11.9 seconds for the VW. at least it only goes 99mph

i HATE how the rear wheel cover/front bumber/headlights looks but everything else is really cool. oh ya the wheels look super weird too

lowlife9

yeah it just looks like a car out of a 80s scifi movie.

lowlife9

toyotas new 300mpg fuel cell.

sdaidoji

iTrader: (1)

i wonder about that. the current F1 cars uses two thirds (?) of the fuel used in a race by previous models, but they are starting to reach same race times in this first year using the new power units, so it's not only about power, but about fuel efficiency.

their energy recovery using the turbo itself is neat. And it can be used to spool the turbo to minimize the turbo lag, so it's quite interesting.

Dude_

Look at the curves on this beauty, I want them on my Civic now!

lowlife9

a side effect really thats to there advantage they didn't set out to reduce emissions just less time in the pits refueling.

sdaidoji

iTrader: (1)

doesn't change the fact they are starting to get similar performance with less fuel, which is great for the engine technology

Dude_

And great for the air we breath.

pnamajck

talking about wild stuff … get a load of this:




(courtesy of www.conceptcarz.com)

jfreakofkorn

it looks somewhat similar to the European civic ...