Stock 99

I'm sure it'll fall apart before any of those things happen.

briando

nah, i think Honda is still on top, but i will admit i'm thinkin that the race is getting closer and closer

MindBomber

I agree, but if somehow it doesn't it will look dated.

S2000 or RX8 will stand the cosmetic test of time, although I would never buy a rotary car. Miatas too.

Civicnoobie

Oh? I guess long term these gen coupes or hyundais have yet to be proven on how well they last in 6, 7+ years. How will the suspension hold up, the bushings, the chasis, etc. Since gen coupe just came out in 2010 i beleve so only 3 years of production so far. I know the 2010 had lots of issues.

Ive been reading on gencoupe forums for about a month now from current gen coupe owners and they all have pretty believe their gen coupes have become just as reliable as honda, nissan and toyota and right up there at the top. Most of these guys are going 20k miles easy without any problems. But we will see i guess.

I did find an interesting thread while back where it stated some of the problems common in them. Like Cheap interior causing rattles and sqeaks and sunroof leaks.

One complaint that worries me is that i guess hyundai uses cheap paint and very thin clearcoat coming from the factory. So apparently the paint chips and scratches very easy. Guys are getting paint chips 5k km into their car ownership.

MindBomber

If you're really serious about picking up RWD sports car, research s2000s.

513EM1

Honda > Hyundai

Muirsy

thanks man.. I have 17s in the summer and 15s in winter both looked good. I maxxed out my coil overs in the front.

also Im with mindbomber.. s2k>genesis any day. also I don't like the fact that the 2.0T only needs 87 octane, turbo'd engines should use higher octane fuel. They must have detuned the hell out of the genesis so that the engine wouldn't detonate.

Civicnoobie

Youre on youre THIRD engine on a hyundai? What hyundai is that? Hyundai engines are suppose to last as long as a honda one from what i hear.

Civicnoobie

Considering the winters we get here, RWD is just not a good idea for me. But i have been in a friends s2000 a few years ago and it was niiice. . Those cars still resale for top prime dollar and even the 03 dont look dated at all. I see used 03 models going for close to 20k.

Wonder how gen coupe resale value would be 8-10yrs from now compared to s2000.

04 Honda Civic

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You could get a used S2k for around 12 grand. I fyou wnat one mint with low miles look closer to around 15 or so..

Gen coupes are not going to compare to S2000's in anyway in 8-10 years. S2000 will hold there value ALOT longer then gen coupes.

I say this not because I own one, but because it was a special Honda and it is now stopp being made.

Honestly, I dont reccomend an S2000 for you, if you are a crazy guy you will loose the rear end pretty quick. I have already and I consider myself pretty careful, yet I do drive "spirited" at times.

MindBomber

If you wonder what a Gen coupe will be worth in a few years, search the prices for Tiburons now.

BlueEM2

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Lots of mixed opinions. Only time will tell what's going to happen. You can't compare a genesis to a tiburon That's like comparing a Honda to a Hyundai. I really hope they last, because it would be nice to have more competition in the market.

Civicnoobie

For the most part i drive like a grandma always going the speed limit. Youre probably why im even wanting a car with a turbo engine.

If thats the case that would suck. 24k car is maybe worth 12k in 4yrs.

Civicnoobie

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SpeedDownZone

I tried not to comment on this tread since you pretty much make your mind on the coupe genesis and everyone touched on pretty much on everything.

But the genesis coupe or Hyundai as a whole have not proven anything yet compared to Honda. Its reasonable for you to believe that it gets so much attention as a Benz and BMW since your pretty much having wet dreams with it.

I will help you out bro.
http://www.gencoupe.com/
http://www.rwdcoupe.com/
http://genesisforums.org/
http://genesisforums.org/

In the end I would just wait for a company that is proven.
http://www.7tune.com/driven-the-new-toyota-86/

rbeats

I drive a honda to work everyday (Hyundai Dealership) I agree with the statement made about not being able to compare the Gennie coupe to the Tib. There is no comparison. Tib was a heavy front drive naturally aspirated four banger. Yes the base model Gennie is a gour banger, but it's boosted. Rear drive and UNGODLY fast. I would also like to add that it's hard to find something to compare the new Gennie coupe with any Honda counterpart in production today. In my opinion if you wanted to compare a Honda to a Hyundai, I would put the Veloster beside the CRZ, and the Civic beside the Elantra. Only because wheelbase are similar and powertrain are comparable. Sadly the "Accident" (Accent) is just that. Hyundai's entry level whoops me made an "econobox" car. When it all comes down to nickels and dimes, I drive a 12 year old car that is paid for to work every day It's only ever in the shop for preventative maintenance and I see a lot of things going wrong with a LOT of new cars. All brands included. Oh yeah, I also have a 2010 Hyundai Sonata.

Civicnoobie

Hey it wasnt me who thinks the gen coupe gets looks and mistaken by people for being a benz or bentley but the gen coupe owners on their forums.

Im not getting the gen coupe, as much as i want it, $38,219 for it over the next four years is gonna put too much of a burden on me financially. That is a lot of cash! It would be more cause id refinance it at end of four years.

By them the car will be worth maybe what 15k? Going from a car with no monthly payments to one that is $553 a month is a huge commitment.

Civicnoobie

What kind of car do you drive to work? The honda? Did your work give you a sonata?

You make a good point about the luxury of having a car that is paid off. It is a huge benefit not having monthly payments and being able to put that money towards other things. Your car may be old but at the end of the day it works.

Ive never had monthly payments on a car before, so i dont know what its like. Nor does anyone in my family since they all bought their cars cash. But i do know 2 weeks ago when i was literally minutes away from signing papers on the 09 SI, and knowing the 6 yr commitment i was making to it financially, that it did all of a sudden hit me right then and there. I had doubts, questions running wild in my mind. Is this right? Is this a mistake? It is a huge commitment and a big change financially. And once youre in, you cant exit

Muirsy

LOL at ungodly fast... its making 200hp... its "quick" not fast

BlueEM2

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^ I think he was talking about the 6 cylinder Oh and possibly the 2013.

Muirsy

even still if someone told me a car is ungodly fast I would be thinking of something that made 500+ whp

BlueEM2

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Yea... "Ungodly" has no real definition and one person may think its 300hp or 500 hp.. but that being said. HP is not the only thing required for speed... Its a weight to power thing The genesis is pretty heavy.

Muirsy

yea weight is another factor and i would agree that the genesis is on the heavy end

MindBomber

The see very little between a Tib and Gen. Both look pretty damn similar, both are heavy, Gen has a little more power with the addition of a turbo but still only comparable horsepower to a Civic Si and less than a Cobalt SS, even the V6 only has comparable power to a 350z which is also not worth much at this point, the only big up over most of the competition is that it's rwd and in Canada that's not even a positive for most people.

sdaidoji

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thanks for the laughs!

rbeats

Yeah "accident"... customers don't like it when i "ahem" mispronounce that word. I drive the civic to work. Work did NOT give me my sonata, they sold it to me.(nothing is free) As for ungodly that may have been an understatement. but they are quick for the buck.

Civicnoobie

^ Lately ive been seeing 4-5 Hyundais on the road and its 95% of the time an elantra. NIce car but not really my style.

I dont think theres a better looking car than the gen coupe for just looks.
In person it looks like a high end 70k luxury car.

I need to accept how my civic looks and accept it for what it is, what it looks like. I need to stop comparing it to every other nice car I see.

MindBomber

You fixate on things naturally, I think that's why you like the Gen coupe so much.

Yes, you absolutely do need to stop caring what other people think. Trying to find happiness through owning this or that is a completely unsustainable cycle, even if you were a millionaire that would be the case. Do little things to your car if it makes you happy though, have you thought about swapping to an 05 front?

rbeats

I love my sedan civic. And i dont care when people bust my ***** that i dont drive a newer car. When i ask what their payment is and tell then mine is zero. They shut up quick .

Civicnoobie

05 front bumper you mean? Well havent considered it since my current bumper has a 1yr old new paint job and its still in perfect condition, not a single paint chip on it. Would adding yellow fog lights make it look better?

What about throwing on 17" rims, would that close up the wheel gap enough to not need coilovers?