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Old 10-20-2010
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DIY: Amplifier Gain Setting Tutorial

Bought a new amp and don't know how to set the gain/level?

This DIY is aimed to show you how to achieve the best sound out of your system, without distortion or clipping.

NUMBER 1 MISTAKE:
Do not use the bass boost on your amplifier
This causes heavy distortion and bass clipping, causing you to damage your speakers

Tools needed:
DMM (Digital Multi-Meter)
Screwdriver? (Maybe)
Blank CD
I would suggest adding some extra bass test songs, like "bass i love you" or "bass excursion test" on this CD to not waste the CD, and it must be on CD for best results
60Hz (-6dB) test tune
Can use 60Hz (-5dB) tune as well. Make sure that this file is not in MP3 or a compressed format, WMA works as well. Search online for a 60Hz (not sweep) test tune, put it in Audacity and change the amplification level to -6

Initial setup:
1. Set your all EQ settings on your HU to 0, turn loudness off, and any boosts off
2. Remove Speaker wire from amp, and attach DMM to where the speaker wires originally were, set DMM to AC Voltage
3. Set gain/level and bass boost to 0 on your amp
4. Determine the voltage you need to achieve by the following formula or chart (Make sure it's RMS and not peak power, you can find the specs of your amp online)
voltage = sqrt( watts X ohms )
In my situation, i have a 480watt amp, but is 240watts RMS bridged.
voltage= sqrt(240x4)
v=sqrt(960)
v=30.98
So in my situation, I would need my DMM to read around 30.5
Or for those of you that hates math, use this chart
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Process:
1. Put in your bass test tone CD into your HU
2. Select your 60Hz test tone, and set on repeat
3. Set volume to about 75%, or the max you will listen to (so if the max volume is 35, and you listen to about 20 at most, set it to 20)
4. Slowly raise the gain/level on your amp untill you reach the voltage previously determined. DO NOT RAISE BASS BOOST
5. If you aren't getting high enough voltage, raise the Subwoofer EQ on your headunit up to around 5 or 6, and adjust your Gain accordingly
Always set your DMM around .5V~1V lower than what it should be, to compensate for songs recorded at different levels
6. After everything is finished, you can return your regular EQ settings, but make sure Low is set to 0, because that would change the voltage that you just set


Heres my DMM showing 14v when gain is set on max, and sub is set on 0
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and heres my DMM showing 43v when gain is set on max, and sub is set on 6
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I hope this tutorial helps you guys out
After I did this, my bass sounded cleaner and tighter than ever
Referenced from RealmofExcursion.com

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Re: DIY: Amplifier Gain Setting Tutorial

Nice. I'll have to try this out when I'm not so busy.. Or procrastinating school work by lurking on here or facebook.. lol
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Re: DIY: Amplifier Gain Setting Tutorial

Definitely doing this. Does everything apply to non-sub speakers too?
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Re: DIY: Amplifier Gain Setting Tutorial

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Definitely doing this. Does everything apply to non-sub speakers too?
Should basically be the same, just make sure you get the RMS accordingly
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Re: DIY: Amplifier Gain Setting Tutorial

Interesting. I have never set an amp this way. Have always done it by ear.
May try that during this install I am doing in my car.
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Re: DIY: Amplifier Gain Setting Tutorial

So I decided to move my Audio threads into General Auto section so I can reopen them for discussion and questions

And also as an update:

JL Audio has created an application for iPhone/iPod users
Check it out here
This new app has:
-SPL (Sound Pressure Level) Meter
-RTA (Real Time Analyzer)
-Speaker Polarity tester
-Also, you get four audio calculators designed to help with car audio installation and test.

The Amplifier Calculator is similar to the chart above, but more precise on exactly how much voltage you need based on your RMS Rating and Impedance level
Originally Posted by JL Audio
SPL, RTA, and Polarity are all fully functional tools, and they can all be upgraded to full professional-grade audio test tools.

SPL is a great digital SPL meter, with special microphone compensation built in to correct the iPhone and iPod touch mic, to get the best possible readings. SPL Upgrade adds A and C weighting, octave band weighting, ANSI Slow, Fast, Peak, Impulse, and LEQ modes, and the ability to store readings.

RTA is a 1/3-octave band Real Time Analyzer, including mic compensation to show the flattest possible readings using the iPhone and iPod touch mics. The upgrade adds a cursor, pink noise generation, Octave mode, different decay modes, noise curve overlays, and more.

Polarity lets you check your speaker polarity, using a waveform that you can download at our website. The upgrade adds filters for woofer, midrange, and tweeter, and generates the test signal internally.

Like all sound measurement apps, accuracy varies somewhat between devices, and some models of iPhone and iPod touch don't include mics.

All of these modules were built using the advanced engines from Studio Six Digital.
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Re: DIY: Amplifier Gain Setting Tutorial

I realize this is old, but for your sake I want to say something. I would like to point out that while your method is correct, your calculations on your amp were wrong. That amp does 200w bridged @ 4ohms. You should have come up with 28.28v.
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