07 civic si vs 06 rsx - Page 2

ryan509 · 09-09-2009

ya about the only thing i would do performance wise to the car would probly be i/h/e and then everything else would be looks cause i drive around 50 miles roundtrip to work everyday. but like you say i really dont think i could go wrong with either car

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gearbox · 09-10-2009

no supercharger?

ryan509 · 09-10-2009

well i commute 50 miles to work everyday probly once i pay the car off in a couple years i will make it my project car and do more stuff to it but while its my only vehicle probly just i/h/e. would SC or turbo make the reliabilty of my engine worse? i mean if i ran conservative like 6 psi? also how long do turbo and or SC last?

dopes6070 · 09-10-2009

Both have thier issues but usually a s/c at lower boost pressure will be very reliable. I really like the JRSC and you can get over 250whp easily with them. Reliability usually comes down to the quality of the install. As long as you keep the boost somewhat low the engine wont care one way or the other, Its life is more dependant on how hard its used.

civicsrcool · 09-10-2009

i think it depends on what you wanna do with the car. any type of road racing/autox id say go with the civic. i first hand have experienced the difference between 7th gen civic (same suspension as rsx) and a 8th gen civic (not si). me and my friends used to tear up some turns in the canyons. lets just say that if my friend was a more skilled driver he would have womped me in every category (braking, turn in, turn out, acceleration). i was behind him the whole time, seeing as how the car had much more room to be pushed to the limit, as i had to brake more and slow down because hes too slow

. however, the rsx is a very nice straight line platform IMHO.

and driveby wire is trash. i believe the 05-06 rsx has drive by wire as well. i dont know exactly what it is but when i drove a 07civic si i hated the feel of it. something about when i let off the throttle the revolutions stay there for a good second. (for example im at 4k rpm and shift into neutral for a stop light, the engine will stay at 4k rpms for a little bit) makes driving a lot easier for the novice driver (ie heal toe, power shifting) but i believe it takes the thrill out of acquiring those skills that you worked so hard to perfect. all to be beat by the car itself, and not the driver. sooner or later racing will probably be machine vs machine rather than driver vs driver IMHO. a sad thing

ryan509 · 09-10-2009

ya that is one of the downfalls i have heard alot of ppl say is that when you shift it stays at the rpm for a second or 2 i probly wont do any real racing maybe mess around with friends and what not i would rather have a kinda fast car that lasts 200k miles than a badass fast car that will last 100k miles

dopes6070 · 09-10-2009

My buddies 8thgen SI has almost no rev hang between shifts. He said Honda had a PCM update that got rid of 90% of the issue. The only thing that annoys me about DBW (in other applications such as my RL) is it letting off the gas if there is any wheelspin. Sometimes its just fun to plant your foot and slide it haha. Other then that I think DBW is a good thing. It helps minimize transmission damage and shock loading. Same with a clutch delay valve thats used on a lot of cars now. They are all used to help maintain reliability when drivers decide to beat on the cars LOL.

gearbox · 09-10-2009

good thing. the earlier 06 civics were almost not driveable to me. car felt so weak and the auto trans was sloppy and lagging like it was about to break. it took a second for the car to understand that i just pushed on the gas pedal. very annoying lol

ryan509 · 09-11-2009

ya i probly wouldnt sc or turbo the car for a while as they are expensive and i dont really want a street racing car lol i think i/h/e would be fine then do stuff like wing, bodykit, and interior work

gearbox · 09-11-2009

you could do the hondata reflash too which is alot more power for almost no difference in reliability (but you have to use premium gas). my brother has it for his 03 rsx base and it feels like a type-s.

ryan509 · 09-12-2009

now i heard that hondata is only good if you just plan to do intake and exhaust? i hear kpro is the way to go for i/h/e and any turbo/sc or internals what is the difference between kpro and hondata?

gearbox · 09-12-2009

they are both hondata, the reflash is a one time ecu reprogram depending on what mods you tell them like i/h/e. you send your ecu, they reprogram it with new stuff.

the kpro is for turbo/sc and has full tuning capability like when you goto the dyno. ofcourse kpro is much more expensive.

gearbox · 09-12-2009

they are both hondata, the reflash is a one time ecu reprogram depending on what mods you tell them like i/h/e. you send your ecu, they reprogram it with new stuff.

the kpro is for turbo/sc and has full tuning capability like when you goto the dyno. ofcourse kpro is much more expensive.

ryan509 · 09-12-2009

o so one is programmable like take it to a dyno/shop and they can keep reprogramming as you add stuff?

gearbox · 09-12-2009

yeah kpro you can keep adjusting whenever you change something and have it dyno tuned. reflash you tell them your list of parts and they do it once for you with tested fuel curves. few boltons really dont affect it that much, but they prolly change it a bit than if you just were stock (which still gives great gains).