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your forgettng that something like 90% of Kia is rebadged fords. so Kia is not even in the same ballpark as Hyundai.
hyundai owns kia. Hyundai's long term plan is to make kia there sporty line and hyundai there main stream line.
Most of the hyundai's are made in there alabama plant and i believe the kia's are too.
Hyundai does have a part sharing and R&D program with ford and chrysler in europe I believe. It mainly to develop diesel's for the european market, since the euro's are years ahead of everyone else in diesel tech. Honda might be the only exception if new diesel performs as well as they say it does.
__________________ 04 Civic Coupe with aero kit =sold
94 Integra 3dr= sold
02 c32 mercedes amg = new project
i would drive the s*** out of a diesel civic. high torque with good economy FTW. on the hyundai genesis it also mentioned something about a 4 door version in the future. i would be curious to see what that looks like. this one is almost too edgy or bold for me. good find though
i'd still like to buy one if i didn't have plans for an is300 2jz swap
thats always a classic. i was going to buy one too since there so cheap now, but there so many ricers with the is300 now where i live. So it kinda turned me off to buying it.
__________________ 04 Civic Coupe with aero kit =sold
94 Integra 3dr= sold
02 c32 mercedes amg = new project
There's nothing wrong with Hyundai. People laughed when they heard Toyota was making a luxury division. Now Lexus vehicles sell better than Cadillacs.. Times change...
On another note - keep in mind that Kia may also be getting a version of this Coupe very soon. It'll likely be a tiny bit weaker but priced accordingly - ready for modification...
There's nothing wrong with Hyundai. People laughed when they heard Toyota was making a luxury division. Now Lexus vehicles sell better than Cadillacs.. Times change...
On another note - keep in mind that Kia may also be getting a version of this Coupe very soon. It'll likely be a tiny bit weaker but priced accordingly - ready for modification...
yeah if you pay attention, hyundai is actually copying exactly what Toyota did. Make cheap cars first then slowly build up quality at a cheap price. Then move on to more premium cars, there just doing it faster then the Japanese.
I think people forget, people use to buy hondas because the build quality was good and the price was cheap. Honda still has good build quality, but there prices are not so cheap anymore.
__________________ 04 Civic Coupe with aero kit =sold
94 Integra 3dr= sold
02 c32 mercedes amg = new project
you can tell its the civic SI fighter. Since it basically looks like a si. If they keep the si price, then i think honda is going to have some trouble. You can only ride the more reliability and resale wagon for so long.
I still can't believe honda's hasn't switched to direct injection yet. Even hyundai is doing it.
here's a quote about it from autoblog
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We were able to get a sneak peak of Kia's newest concept last night, but the wraps finally came off the KOUP at 9:40AM this morning, and the concept offers a design study that will most certainly influence the automaker's future offerings. The KOUP is a cab-forward two-door in a similar vein as the Honda Civic, but fortunately or unfortunately, that's not where the similarities end. The front fascia is a nice amalgamation of the Euro-Civic, with a few cues that are strikingly similar to Mitsubishi's current gaping maw. The beltline, beginning beneath the carbon fiber wing mirrors, plummets to define the slightly sculpted sides and terminates into a Lancer-like rear end. Naturally, Kia saw fit to outfit the KOUP with a handful of typical concept elements, including a panoramic glass roof, carbon fiber diffusers (front and rear) and Brembo calipers with cross-drilled rotors.
While the exterior design is handsome enough -- in a watered-down, mashup kind of way -- the real interesting bit is under the hood. Kia has outfitted the concept with a 2.0-liter Theta II turbocharged engine with direct injection that's putting out (according to the automaker) 290 hp and 289 lb.-ft. of torque beginning at 2,000 rpm. That theoretical grunt is sent to the front wheels that are suspended by a MacPherson strut setup, while out back a dual-link arrangement balances ride quality and handling. The KOUP is also equipped with Continuous Damping Control (CDC), which should keep things composed and comfortable when the going gets sporty.
basically the koup is going to be the si fighter and the hyundai coupe is going to be the poor man's g35.
looks like people were right that the 200hp is completely detuned. Looks like the tuned version can do 290hp.
__________________ 04 Civic Coupe with aero kit =sold
94 Integra 3dr= sold
02 c32 mercedes amg = new project
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