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ok listen guys im having a really bad couple of days at work- i shouldent take it out on yall- im sorry perfect- your help has been tremdous- im a telemarketer at this point and i dont want to do this forever- i have no sales today- im doing really bad this month- im getting all worried that this jobs not gonna work out- i got all these bills- and all i want is a damn turbo kit so i can start a little side biz- thats all- and theres nothing i want more than this kit to work out- sorry if i blew up- hopefully tommorow will be a better day- sorry all- hope you can forgive me-
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Ok, first of all, as far as the injectors go - as long as they have the same connector and same size fittings, then it should be fine - and guess what, most injectors are so similiar that DSM injectors are often used on Hondas.
Second, Even if the idea we are getting together here doesn't work, you can always add a second set of injectors that are independantly controlled by and AFC or something.
Third, there is no way I'm gonna wait for 6 months for some overrated company to sell me a turbo for $5000 when I can do this myself for half that price.
Oh, and most Honda fuel pumps are the same, so that shouldn't be a problem - just have to look into the FPR now.
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Ok, how are we (or anybody) going to take car of the FPR...
Hrm... I just woke up, and I gotta go to work soon, but I will be thinking about this all day, and luckily I work with a couple of gearheads, all with good wrench experience. That, unfortunately, is not what I have. Granted, I have some, but these guys know quite a bit (mostly DSM tho)!
On older gens, the stock D series can only take up 8psi (6psi if you want it to live longer and be a hell of a lot more reliable), so I think that it is a fair assumption that we should be able to do the same. That and HKS mentioned 6psi in their forum (someone want to check me on this? Im lazy
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ok start off the day on a good note thats good- it seems when ever i get laid everything works out- heheheh- i love my girlfriend- anyways- as far as the kit is concerned ill ask my girls dad about it- ive been asking him so many questions lately- hope hes not getting pissed- lol al right ill bb later- tell yal what i find out
Grey: 8psi as in what the stock internals can take, but the will not last long ie. for drag use only. It puts to much stress on the engine to run that much boost on a stock internals when being daily driven. 6psi is safer and optimal for daily driven.
I am going to try to get ahold of some blueprints for the 6th gen and the 7th gen. If anyone has either or please post them or email me!
I have a good theory right now, and after discussing it with some of the other guys at work, I feel even better about it. Yet, I still want to do some research on it before I say anything, so if anyone has these blueprints please post them!
Keep us all in the know about the turbo...I am VERY interested in getting it done to my car. I'd rather spend the 4 g's and have a sleeper than buy a car that everyone knows is fast.
Blueprints mostly of the engine, more importantly of the fuel system, and all related items. Somehow ClubRSX.com already has some for their car, we should be able to source some also.
i'm joining this forum a little late.. but i read bits and pieces and as far as the turbo size goes.. a t3/t4 wouldn't be totally out of the question... slap an Aem plug 'n play system on there.. and take your ride to a nice machine shop and have molds of your pistons made so they can build you some new stronger ones.. and get yourself a port and polish while you're there. you can get a lot of custom work done.. more than what i mentioned.. don't just wait on name brand stuff. speaking of which.. who knows when the Jun camshaft will be out?
i heard on another topic that it was out- i dont think that that would all be nessacary if the proper amount of bost was set- oviously i wont run a total 15 lbs- somewhere between 8 to 10 lbs should be all good with stock internals- anyways i can get a stock piston for like 25 bucks if i needed to match it up
8-10lbs of boost on stock internals? Still wanting to go with a T3/T4? Do you honestly know anything about turbos, besides from magazines, etc? I am not trying to flame you here! Yet, you want to use a T3/T4, with good reason, but unless you upgrade your fuel system at the sametime, you will detonate your engine! T3/T4 puts out way too much boost (I believe its at 5-6psi) at its lowest setting! If you are upgrading your fuel system at the sametime, fine, it'll work, but don't get boost happy, 6psi is the safest limit for a stock internally setup daily driver. Besides, with a max of 6psi on stock internals, a T25 or T28 is better suited. You will have quicker spool up, hit the max psi quicker, and over all have a better powerband, one that won't be peaky like that of a T3/T4. Besides, your statement about upgrading the internals later is a valid point, but, unless you have a pretty large budget, that isn't going to happen anytime soon, and T3/T4 will have to be so heavily regulated (read limited) in order to keep the boost low enough until the internals are fortified, not to mention it is a more costly turbo to begin with. Startup cost for DIY project turbo will be cheaper with a T25, which you find off of 2nd gen eclipses, or a T28, don't know here to find that, but a friend told me on older dodges at junkyards for 75-100, and you could get picky and get a rebuild kit for about the same price. Besides, I haven't done the calculations yet because they are to invovled and time consuming to figure which turbo size would be optimum for our powerband. A smaller turbo would compliment our cars nicely, adding quicker spool up, its sweet spot being exactly what our stock internals can withstand, and be alot cheaper path to go.
You want to slap a AEM plug n' play? Funny, I didn't think they had released them yet, not to mention have a model for us, unless you know how to setup a fuel map from a blank line....
Also, still waiting on those part numbers for the RC Engineering injectors, because I still have yet to hear of them having ones for us.
Remember Pinkytoe, I am not ragging on you, I want to see this work! I just want to make sure all ducks are in a row before you proceed.