Do You Regret Purchasing Your 7th Gen Civic?

[Speedy]

Well I haven't been on this site for a while. I traded in my Honda Civic 2k1 for a Suzuki Grand Vitara. Yes I got a Suzuki. So many problems with my Honda. My goodness. I have no regrets. Where did Honda Engineers get their education from? The Engineering School of F_C__K ups? I have never been so disaapointed in a car before. Honda has issues with their engineering and their workmanship. This is clearly identified by all the posts in this forum. I think purchasing a new car should be something exciting, something you can feel proud of. But purchasing a Honda Civic, is like purchasing a death trap. Sure it is a new design, and yes there will be perks and quirks, but this sh___t is rediculous. There are presently 4-recalls on the Honda Civic 7th Gen. Someone didn't think things through at Honda. I have heard so many complaints about the stalling issue. The same thing use to happen to my car. I had it all! The creaking springs, stalling, fuel gauge, wind noise, seat rocking, squeaky brakes and the list goes on and on. Yes you pay for what you get! And the price might look appealing. But I would like to reitterate, you are purchasing a new car. And there shouldn't be any problems with it! If there are problems, why not get a USED car. At least you would expect to have problems. The mind set for everyone, is a Honda Looks Good, great car, reliability. Good car for the money. But from looking at all the complaints in here, MY GOD!!!!!!! It reassures me that my choice of trading in my HONDA 7th GEN civic was a good one. My suzuki might get crappy gas milage, but I can drive down the street without fear of stalling and fear of being rear ended by someone because of the stalling. One way to really get American Honda to take notice, is for everyone to get an electronic petition, and send it to the President of American Honda Corporation. The abuse the consumers are taking because of a poor design should not happen in this day and age. We are too technologically advanced for this Bull s___it!!!!!!!! Being a mechanical engineer there is no greater discomfort in me than to see a poor mechaincal design and to see so many complaints relating to mechanical defects. For those of you who think my comments are harsh and do not appreciate them, KISS my A_____S!!!!! [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG] I am more than qualifed to make these comments. After all how many of you can say you have an engineering degree? Food for thought!

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[nycivic]

You are so on the money. I have had the seat rocking issue almost a year now and it's never been fixed properly. I have even dealt with the District manager and gotten no satisfaction. I was told that "it doesn't seem to be that bad". Interesting huh? Also the SIDE AIR BAG lights go on and off when they're not supposed to depending upon how you sit on the seat. that's just dumbe. the Seat belt pertensioners are underpowered. The Paint quality of the bumber panels is pathetic. I have never seen paint that can chip right off with just a rub of your fingernail. Mine does!!! my little CD door has already snapped of for no good reason. The grade control logic is supposed to be a safety feature but all it really does is make you feel like you're gonna fly out of your chair.

What the hell happened to the suspension? The rear suspension is the equivelant of a chevy EXPRESS cargo van!!! I have never felt a rear suspension that handles bumps so poorly. And the understeer on the front end I guess is a result of the new "Independent" suspension. Hey HONDA>>>IF IT AIN"T BROKE DON'T FIX IT!!! And why does a loaded EX with AUTO/ABS and SRS AIRBAGS run you close to $19000? That's ridiculous!!! And god forbid they could throw in Alloy tires on the EX model. Most every car company gives you ALLOYS standard now!!

I won't even get into the buzzes and rattles that the radio and moonroof cause.

I couldn't agree with you more. I am taking my issues to the better business bureau because I have dealt with American HONDA and they just turn their heads like I am crazy.

I bought a HONDA for reliability!!! Like most people! I don't even care about third party/aftermarket support which there is very little of still!! I can't even get a simple K&N drop in Filter for the thing because K&N can't seem to make one that will work for it. it's already in it's second year!!!

My girlfriend bought a MERCURY COUGAR and I was skeptical because it was an American Car. that thing has had no problems other than people trying to steal it!!!

SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!!!!!!

[01civicboi]

a thread related to this title was posted way back.
i think you just had bad luck with your 7th gen because i've never had any problems with my car. *knock on wood* and i bet there are members who can agree with me. i've heard of complaints from other members as well but not ALL members are having problems. if i were going through the same problems as you have, i would feel the same way.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG]

[Ronin]

<< And why does a loaded EX with AUTO/ABS and SRS AIRBAGS run you close to $19000? That's ridiculous!!! And god forbid they could throw in Alloy tires on the EX model. Most every car company gives you ALLOYS standard now!! >>


If you thought it was over-priced and under-equipped to begin with, compared with other models, why did you still buy it? Nobody forced to to pay that much for your car. If you didn't shop around properly by comparing it with other dealerships and other models, then that's your own problem.

[Speedy]

Ronin! It is quite true that he probably paid too much for the car. But don't thrash the guy!

Dealers can be quite cunning and will prey on the misinformed, especially when it comes to buying a new car.

I think we have paid too much for something at one point in our lives.

[Ronin]

Why do you think I'm thrashing the guy? I'm not...

I'm simply pointing out that if he felt the car was over-priced, then he should have never bought it in the first place. If he felt he wasn't getting real value for his money from the Civic, there are literally hundreds of other models to choose from.

Yet he still went and bought the Civic, even though nobody forced him to, and even though he felt it was over-priced. And now he feels like he got ripped off. Well if he feels this way, then it sure sounds to me like he didn't shop around properly when he bought his car. That's all.

[Speedy]

I believe that you are thrashing the guy!

Look! Make no mistake, he did pay too much, but his main problem is not how much he paid, but the problems he is having with the vehicle.

For you to simply state "Nobody forced to to pay that much for your car. If you didn't shop around properly by comparing it with other dealerships and other models, then that's your own problem." clearly implies you are THRASHING the guy.

Haven't you ever purchased something and figured out that you probably paid too much for it? And relaized that you could of shopped around.

I am simply saying that no one needs to be reminded of the fact that they got screwed on a purchase, especially the purchase of a Honda that is a lemon.





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[Intruder]

Seat Rocks, but I fixed the moonroof rattle myself. Other than that I stand by my car 110%.

[Ronin]

<< I believe that you are thrashing the guy! >>


haha..... Hey man, you believe whatever the hell you want to believe. You could believe in Santa Claus too, for all I care.

And I had no idea you were his mother. If you want to keep believing that I'm "thrashing" your boy here when I'm simply making a counter-point to his statement, fine, keep on believing it.

Bottom line is, every car maker will produce lemons, even Honda. Honda sold 323,000 units of the Civic in 2001 in the States alone... 3rd behind only the Accord and Camry for passenger cars. When you sell that many units, there are bound to be a few lemons here and there, nobody's perfect. There are over 3,000 members on this site, and I believe the vast majority of them are very satisfied with their Civics. It's too bad you guys ended up with problems on your cars, but that's the nature of car ownership... sometimes you're going to get a perfect car, sometimes you don't.

And as for realizing sometimes that I paid too much for a certain purchase after the fact, of course it's happened to me. But I accept it as my own error in judgment, and I learn from it so that hopefully it won't happen again. Perhaps you should try the same thing.

[astr033]

To answer the question in the title of this thread, I don't regret purchasing my 7th Gen Civic. I absolutely love it and I've been fortunate not to have any problems with it. I'm sorry that you've had bad experience with it.

One point that you should be aware of: the 2k1's are the first year of a new redesigned Civic. Although I don't possess an engineering degree (my degree is a science degree), logic would dictate that the first year of a new generation of a car would have its share of problems. Certainly this is they way it is with software. Bugs are to be expected in any new version of a software package. I'll just leave it at that. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

[Speedy]

I still think you are thrashing him. And yes you are correct we should all learn to live with our mistakes and judgement and hope we can

make better choices. But the point is, his focus was not on how much he paid but the problems he has encountered.

You know what Ronin, I am a cut to the chase type of person.

My Honda was assembled in Canada. hmmmmmmmmmm!

I guess that is why it was a lemon! Canadians don't know how to put anything together correctly!

It was even statistically found that most of the defects occurred from the Canadian assembly lines. This was told to me by a Honda Engineer. Basically he stated that Honda's Biggest mistake was to let the Canadians have any part in the assembly arena.

Yes your country men can't follow simple assembly instructions.

As far as being dude's mother, I think not! I can just sympathize with him. Because I too had a lot of problems with my 7th GEN Civic.

Now sit and spin little boy! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

[Ronin]

<< I guess that is why it was a lemon! Canadians don't know how to put anything together correctly! It was even statistically found that most of the defects occurred from the Canadian assembly lines. This was told to me by a Honda Engineer. Basically he stated that Honda's Biggest mistake was to let the Canadians have any part in the assembly arena. Yes your country men can't follow simple assembly instructions. >>


You do realize the coupes are made in Ohio, don't you? And I do believe there are people who have had problems with their coupes too.

And so according to you, American companies DO know how to put things together? Meaning American companies like Ford, GM, Chrysler for example? Cuz we all know there's never a single problem with cars built by those companies, RIGHT?

Hate to tell you this, but...



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... for even bringing up this subject.
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[sorphin]

I've had no regrets (well, none that are honda's fault.. stupid Jackson Racing [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG] ).. no seat rocks, no squeaking springs, nothin.. and i have a 2k2 ex coupe..

-ds

[UncleB]

sometimes I regret buying it, but that's only cause half of my paycheck goes towards payments every month. I hope to lower the payments with some extra payments here and their and hopefully refinancing in a year.

[nycivic]

HERE'S the deal. I knew exactly what i was paying for. And I didn't pay 19,000. I got them to throw a lot of stuff in for free and got a good deal. I am saying that Joe Shmoe who goes into a HONDA dealer and figures they're getting great reliability and resale value so, why not pay the little extra. fortunatley that wasn't me. At the same time, I am pissed that those reasons don't apply any more when it comes to HONDA. I shopped around plenty, I decided on the CIVIC had great resale and I had heard that FOCUS' had a lot of quirky problems. I had narrowed it down. the car i really wanted wasn't available yet (the PROTEGE5). Which by the way is an excellent automobile and I wish i could've waited for it but I couldn't. I drove it recently and was amazed by the build quality and how it outhandled the CIVIC and seemed just as fast. The PROTEGE5 also had a stock exhaust that was nice and throaty.

I researched cars for months before I picked up the CIVIC. Reliability was where I thought the CIVIC had the edge. And obviously I WAS WRONG!!! Plain and simple. Now I know why Focus' outsold CIVIC's last year.

I have owned several CIVICs and never had a problem with them. But now, it appears they are getting a little bit lax when it comes to testing and quality control. Also, i have never found HONDA Service departments to be very accomodating.

BTW- Much Thanks to SPEEDY for getting my back on this. I can't get out of this car because of the money I'll lose but I will soon!