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Old 02-08-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Thinking about a Mazda3

What do you guys think of it? I really like the styling; it's realy European. The engine has 160 hp / 150 lb/ft torque and is all go. Plus, we all know how good Mazdas are when it comes to suspension. I priced it online and it comes out to 18K with all the options I want. I figure if I wait until Labor Day the sales will lower that a couple grand and with my car only owing about 3K by then I will probably be able to affort it. What do you guys think? To remove this ad, register today for free or log in if already registered!
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go for it. bang for the buck
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I think you should wait for the 05. Because most new cars tend to have lot of problems in their first year such as the 7gen civic.
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go for it. they are pretty nice
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Usually only the first couple hundred cars have more problems than usual.

I say go for it, good power, good styling, awesome options, and amazing value.
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i like the sedan but the hatchback is a no. which are you looking at?

mazda's a really good feel to them, like the doors feel solid when you shut them. they are not long-term cars though i dont think, from my friends of mine have experienced (high mileage becomes an issue). also being owned by ford kinda scares me after all the problems we have had with the explorer and mustang.

but thats just my opinion, just make sure its what you really want.
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Mazda is not owned by Ford. Ford has a 33% stake in Mazda, which does not mean they own them.
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good power, good styling, awesome options, and amazing value.
Zoom zoom! Like the commercials, right?

You don't need marketing to convey an image. If you need marketing, you don't have image. Aside from the Miata, the low volume MSP and to an extent, the RX-8, I'm not particularly impressed with Mazdas.
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Mazda is not owned by Ford. Ford has a 33% stake in Mazda, which does not mean they own them.
Kinda funny that when you goto Ford.com them and click "browse OUR brands" it states mazda as one being owned by Ford Motor Company.
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Thats because in Japan 33% qualifies are a controlling share, so as a technicality they are owned by Ford. But insofar as control over the design process is concerned Ford hasn't any variety of control for the most part. Though, if I'm not mistaken the 2.3 litre engine in the 3 may be shared w. the Focus somewhere down the road.

This has been gone over a thousand times, every time the 3 gets brought up.

But hey, at least Mazdas are still manufactured in Japan, which is more than I can say for our Civics.
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Still, if ford has ANY ownership in anything people should be scared, VERY SCARED. lmao
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Oddly, I was thinking the same damn thing myself. They look pretty sweet, you can get all the extras like Xenon, DVD Navigation, etc... for something like 18K (i think)....


Sounds pretty pissah to me....
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Still, if ford has ANY ownership in anything people should be scared, VERY SCARED. lmao
I would be afraid of an Aston Martin, too. Just for different reasons.
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Ford is a 33% shareholder in Mazda, as well as Aston Martin, Jaguar, and Range Rover. Mazda still operates 100% independently of the parent company, meaning they research, design, and produce their cars in Japan. There are a few exceptions, like Honda, some Mazdas are built in North America. A few 6's I believe. The only thing Mazda gets from Ford is funding. Ford technologies are available to Mazda, so that Mazda can take what it wants, but of course this is all at Mazda's own discretion.

Think about it like this. If you owned an Italian Restaurant, and had a large investment in a Chinese Restaurant, but not large enough to run the place, just large enough to make some money out of it.....wouldn't you advertise the Chinese Restaurant in your Restaurant as a good place to try? It's all economics and marketing people. Don't believe the ricer hype.
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I saw a dark Mazda 3 around my town riding on 17's. My buddy told they were stock (as an option, that is). Man, with those rims, it was one sweet looking ride.

I say go for it, but as someone before said, wait till next year's models so they can work out any flaws.
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