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Originally posted by CivicHX01 <-----manual lover... you can't do fun things in an auto like
1. red-lining (well maybe if you put it in 2 then d3....etc.)
2. rev matching
3. double clutching
4. heel-toe downshifting
haha, i just noticed i listed them in order of difficulty (4 being the hardest)
i can do 1 and 2 with no problem but 3 i need to work on my shifting speed (i think a short shifter would help) and 4 the car still jerks a bit... i need to get it perfect before i actually use it to enter corners....
i've had my car since june 01 and i love stick and haven't gotten tired of it! sometimes its a pain during traffic but i don't mind...
You should try Heel-toe shifting while in the middle of a corner, like where youre suppose to. It's really not that hard, you essentialy want to be back in the lower gear at the apex of the corner so you can accelerate out. Its like doing a littel dance, step 1. on the brake. step two turn in to corner. step 3. push in clutch. step 4. "Tap" the gas with your heel (while your still on te brake) step 5. down shift and release the brake step 6. pass apex and accelerate out of the corner. its that easy just 6 simple steps!!!
But seriously, Heel-toe shifting is a pain in the ass to get right. but once you learn, its probably the most fun you'll ever have with a manual transmission.
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I drive manual, but when we reach a certain age i'm sure we'll give up the "stick" and switch to automatic and start yelling at young kids driving too fast on the street.
Just because a civic's not that fast, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it. I have loads of fun in my civic. Shifting at 6500 RPM brings such joy. If there's an open stretch of a windy road, I love punching the throttle.
As far as stop-and-go traffic being a pain, its not, because driving manual becomes so second nature that you don't really notice it (unless you're in a very hilly area). Oakland is one of the worst for traffic, and I still would never want to go back to auto. Only time I wished for an auto was when I was parrallel parking on a steep hill.
Originally posted by bluecivic03lx I figure with my car being and lx non vtech theirs not a whole lot I can do to iimprove the performance anyway so I'll always be more show than go.
actually, its better to turbo an lx because it has a lower compression than the ex and also the vtec (not "vtech") makes tuning harder...
Originally posted by ChiZX I was originally going to get a manual, but my mother insisted I buy an auto for my safety. You know moms. In case of emergency, I want anyone to be able to drive my car. There are too many people (especially my friends) that don't know how to drive stick. I wouldn't want to be stuck somewhere because my car is stick and I couldn't drive it. Something to think about. Safety First!
Cheers,
ChiZX
i wouldn't want anyone driving my car in the first place... i'd rather be stuck somewhere and wait than have someone else drive my car...
oh yeah, auto EX...it's ok, but it's too boring and slow for me...but I'm stuck with it for the moment, I compensate by having fun with my girlfriend and my free hand, hehehe!
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Originally posted by Zzyzx But seriously, Heel-toe shifting is a pain in the ass to get right. but once you learn, its probably the most fun you'll ever have with a manual transmission.
I agree. It's not the hardest thing to learn and it is fun.
IMO, left foot braking is the hardest thing to learn. First time I did it, I couldn't get my foot off the brake until the car completely stopped.
Originally posted by CivicHX01 actually, its better to turbo an lx because it has a lower compression than the ex and also the vtec (not "vtech") makes tuning harder...
The difference in compression is not that significant. 9.5:1 (DX/LX) Vs 9.9:1 (HX/EX).
They loaned me a Civic auto when they installed my armrest and it was a total dog compared to my manual. The Civic just does not have the torque to be even remotely quick with an auto. The manual is fun during passing and even stop light to stop light. When it comes to Civics I'll take a manual!
i traded my auto for a manual from this kid... ever since then we became friends and he is the on that has the gx pistons with the mods to support them... he claims 180 (doubtful) with gx pistons, p/p 3 angle valve job, gude cam, bored tb, (mods like spider883) unorthodox pulley, aem cam gear. he is not a member but he is certainly copying his mods. i should really tell him to be a member of this site.
It's really not that hard, you essentialy want to be back in the lower gear at the apex of the corner so you can accelerate out. Its like doing a littel dance, step 1. on the brake. step two turn in to corner. step 3. push in clutch. step 4. "Tap" the gas with your heel (while your still on te brake) step 5. down shift and release the brake step 6. pass apex and accelerate out of the corner. its that easy just 6 simple steps!!! 
