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Old 03-06-2005   #106 (permalink)
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I don't know why ppl keep calling it jute. That's wrong. jute is a plastic grid-like substrate with carpet glued on. (informed by a carpet store owner) The stuff you want it fibrous carpet padding. If you look at your particle-board truck board, it's the stuff that it glued to it.

If you live in SoCal, NoArizona, SoUtah, or Nevada, you're welcome to drive down and take the 1/2 roll I have left, or buy a full roll at Home Depot for $60. (It's cheaper than a carpet store)



As far as using Raammat on the floors-yet it helps. The SD mats and the padding do different things. The mats kill vibration and make the car feel more dead (solid). The carpet padding muffles/keeps out road noise.
Look in the dictionary! Jute is a Fiber!
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Look in the dictionary! Jute is a Fiber!
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Main Entry: jute
Pronunciation: 'jüt
Function: noun
Etymology: Bengali jhuto
: the glossy fiber of either of two East Indian plants (Corchorus olitorius and C. capsularis) of the linden family used chiefly for sacking, burlap, and twine; also : a plant producing jute
I talked to the OWNER OF A CARPET STORE. When I asked him for jute, he showed a roll of 1/4" thick, very dense carpet glued on to a plastic mesh. When I showed him what was in our cars, he said what I wanted what fibrous carpet padding.
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Half right! j/k I usta sell carpet!
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On recommendation:

A price-thickness comparison of deadening mats
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This is stock jute compared to what I put down:











Makes a great gasket sealant



I put some on my roof too, this is before:



Sticks great!
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Look in the dictionary! Jute is a Fiber!

how exactly do you call it if I want to buy at home depot and I want them to know what I am taling about.

Do I ask for "JUTE"?

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Do I ask for "JUTE"?
Only if you want to confuse them.

Ask for carpet padding. They should have a few different weights. You want fibrous, as dense as possible. A roll should cost about $60. Enough to do two cars completely. (I just threw half my roll away).
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hey OCELARIS,

did you GLUE the JUTE on the door??

How did you make them stay on?

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yup, 3M adhesive spray, works great, spray both sides, wait till it gets tacky, then stick. Works great for cloth. You can get it in the glue isle in home depot/lowes etc...
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I'm not a sound guy but I would still like to have a quieter civic. I have a few rattles, but I read that the sound deteaning materials will not elliminate that type of sound.

I want the interior engine noise to be quiter as well the road noise that comes from the rear near the fenders. Have any you used dynamat extrem under the hood?
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Dynamat Extreme won't do anything for your engine noise, it works the same way as dynamat original...

Dynamat extreme = butyl based
Dynamat Original = Asphaultic based

Both work by lowering the resonance freqency, i.e. sub 100hz bass frequencies is all they are good for.

Jute, Fiberglass, other "fiberous" materials with air pockets work by dispersing the sound. Air makes a great insulator, anything that works well for climate control like fiberglass will be be ideal for a high frequency blocker.

Engine noise is because there isn't sufficient material between the engine and the cabin, Unless you are going to take the dash apart, it's very hard to reduce engine noise... Best bet is to eliminate the short ram or cold air intake if you have one and use the stock air box with a high quality filter and some routing of dryer hose...

The road noise is best eliminated by jute, and lots of it, as it's a high pitched frequency...

There isn't a simple or easy way to get rid of it unless you get to the raw chassis of the car and apply sound deadening/dampening. While you're in there if the panels are thin, put some sound deadening (asphault or butyl based material) on them and that will lower the rock pings etc... But mainly Jute or similar fiberous/airy material is what you need on those rear fenders.
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Would Jute make a huge imapct if I placed in bwtween the door panles like you have done, in terms of road noise? Hmmm is there any other option avaiable in terms of using the ice guard to seal the doors. I'd like to avoid the smell at all cost.

I don't know how to remove the dash(seems like a lot of work) but the rear deck seems doable for me. Are there key areas I should cover to reduce the road noise from the rear. I saw some little felt pieces on the rear wheel wells.

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I don't know how to remove the dash(seems like a lot of work)
it is.... gotta take off the steering wheel and passenger airbag...
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it is.... gotta take off the steering wheel and passenger airbag...

I was trying to read the sticky DIY for dash removal but the pics aren't linked anymore. It would be easier if I could visualize it.

I found this material is it good?

http://edesignaudio.com/product.php?cid=9&pid=7&cur=USD

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(sigh)

If you want to reduce your engine noise, you need this:
Cascade VB-TS

If you want to reduce noise bouncing off the road/tires, use deadening sheets on your sheet metal on your floor and wheel wells, then a layer or two of high-density carpet padding.

And for the last time...

JUTE (what you don't want):


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Carpet padding (what you want):
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