Go Back   Honda Civic Forum > Honda Civics by Generation > 7th Gen Honda Civic > I.C.E. & Electrical

I.C.E. & Electrical Post all your I.C.E. (In Car Entertainment) and wiring questions here. (Audio, video etc.)

Welcome to civicforums.com!
Welcome to civicforums.com.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to start new topics, reply to conversations, privately message other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join civicforums.com today!



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-02-2002   #1 (permalink)
noahnoah
Senior Member
 
noahnoah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, US
Age: 31
Posts: 293
iTrader: (0)
noahnoah is an unknown quantity at this point
Opinions on which capacitor is better?????

I need a capacitor/lightning cap for my system and I need help deciding on which one to buy. I'm looking at either a Power Acoustik 2.4 Farad Digital Capacitor or Lightning Audio LS10
Strike Series 1-Farad Capacitor. If anyone knows anything about capacitors please help. I would assume the large Farad would be better but I don't know why just seems that it would be. Last question, how are these usually mounted and kept stable?
To remove this ad, register today for free or log in if already registered!
noahnoah is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
To avoid seeing this ad in our forum please register at CivicForums.com

By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features.
Old 07-02-2002   #2 (permalink)
GoCivicRacerGo
Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: , U.S. Virgin Islands, US
Posts: 251
iTrader: (0)
GoCivicRacerGo is an unknown quantity at this point
2.4 farads is a lot of power, what amps are you going to be using? You might only need a 1 farad cap. Some metal straps could be used to secure the caps in place.
GoCivicRacerGo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2002   #3 (permalink)
Civey
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: N. Canton, Ohio, US
Posts: 191
iTrader: (0)
Civey is an unknown quantity at this point
whew, a power boy. i like it. sounds kinky
Civey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2002   #4 (permalink)
mohawkboom
Post Master General
 
mohawkboom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Car Audioville, Quebec, Canada
Age: 28
Posts: 6,205
iTrader: (1)
mohawkboom is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to mohawkboom
the Lightnign audio Strike cap woud be the bettrer choice.. less power to charge when is discharged..and a lower ESR...
mohawkboom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2002   #5 (permalink)
WhiteRabbit
Ultimate Member
 
WhiteRabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: bay area, california
Posts: 4,343
iTrader: (0)
WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned
Send a message via AIM to WhiteRabbit
the best cap is none at all. it keeps out that uneccesary strain on your E-system.
WhiteRabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2002   #6 (permalink)
noahnoah
Senior Member
 
noahnoah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, US
Age: 31
Posts: 293
iTrader: (0)
noahnoah is an unknown quantity at this point
None, my lights are dimming just a tad, should I get a capacitor or should I just go about my business and let my lights dim? I thought an capacitor would be a good idea to take some of the strain off of my battery and alternator? Am I wrong? What are you referring to when you say E-system. Electrical?
noahnoah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2002   #7 (permalink)
mohawkboom
Post Master General
 
mohawkboom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Car Audioville, Quebec, Canada
Age: 28
Posts: 6,205
iTrader: (1)
mohawkboom is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to mohawkboom
Hi Noah,

I Cap doesn't take any strain off your electrical system..it just keeps voltage a little more stable. If your lights are dimming just slightly and it's annoying you. a 1 farad cap will take care of the problem.

Cheers
Mohawk
mohawkboom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2002   #8 (permalink)
badcivic2002
Super Member
 
badcivic2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Peoria IL, US
Posts: 681
iTrader: (1)
badcivic2002 is an unknown quantity at this point
You guys and gals can call it over kill but I got a Lightning audio 1.0 and an optima red top and NO dimming at all on an 800 watt amp
badcivic2002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2002   #9 (permalink)
WhiteRabbit
Ultimate Member
 
WhiteRabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: bay area, california
Posts: 4,343
iTrader: (0)
WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned
Send a message via AIM to WhiteRabbit
Quote:
Quote
[hr]Originally posted by: mohawkboom
I Cap doesn't take any strain off your electrical system..[hr]
I think you both misunderstood me. a capacitor ITSELF is a strain on your electical system! sure it can provide that microsecond of current for at least part of that bass note, but what then? your amp still needs current, its still playing bass nots, or has moved on to teh next one, where is the cap? recharging. and its recharging using power that your amp could be using now.

a capacitor is just a bandaid. if your not gonna upgrade yoru alternator, its not worth the money for a cap.

again, am i the only person who doesnt care about dimming? and if you DO care about dimming, why stick a bandaid over the problem? if your gonna fix it, why not solve the problem at the source?
WhiteRabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2002   #10 (permalink)
mohawkboom
Post Master General
 
mohawkboom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Car Audioville, Quebec, Canada
Age: 28
Posts: 6,205
iTrader: (1)
mohawkboom is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to mohawkboom
Band-aid= $99 Proper cure=$600+ hmm... ALso it's not a bif strain in the least bit on an electrical system..fo an SPL system where every incling of current matters..it's a NoNo..in an every day system for someone who doesn;t want dimming..it's a oerfect solution..
mohawkboom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2002   #11 (permalink)
WhiteRabbit
Ultimate Member
 
WhiteRabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: bay area, california
Posts: 4,343
iTrader: (0)
WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned
Send a message via AIM to WhiteRabbit
even another battery is a strain on teh E-system.

anytime you add something that draws power, you are straining your E-system.

you cant argue that a capacitor has enough power to power yoru amp for a bass hit, and yet not draw the current from the alternator to provide.

and besides, you can get alternators or alternator rewraps for $300. the rewrap is fine as long as you get a warrantee with it......

Hell, there is a shop in san ho that will do it, all you have to do is bring your alternator to them in a shoebox, they will take care of you.
WhiteRabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2002   #12 (permalink)
mohawkboom
Post Master General
 
mohawkboom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Car Audioville, Quebec, Canada
Age: 28
Posts: 6,205
iTrader: (1)
mohawkboom is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to mohawkboom
rewinds on our medium case uncolled mitsubishi alternators can yield a reliable 90amps..or a sletchy 120amps(alt will run VERY HOT)..a can is a strain in the decivolt range so it's not a biggie.. Unless a person listens to speedmetal and the like where the bass and double kickdrums are non-stop..a cap does it's job...[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
mohawkboom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2002   #13 (permalink)
WhiteRabbit
Ultimate Member
 
WhiteRabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: bay area, california
Posts: 4,343
iTrader: (0)
WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned
Send a message via AIM to WhiteRabbit
well, if he doesnt care about fixing the problem, i guess he is set then
WhiteRabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2002   #14 (permalink)
mohawkboom
Post Master General
 
mohawkboom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Car Audioville, Quebec, Canada
Age: 28
Posts: 6,205
iTrader: (1)
mohawkboom is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to mohawkboom
Not everyone's like us and will go to great lengths to solve the problem completely and not just cover it up. While covering it up with a cap in this case is the cheapest and most practicle solution..it will work for him. We both run 1/0 Guage wire when 4 guage is plenty..I have a 160amp alternator, My cars about 120lbs heavier with sound deadening mat..sound absorbing foam, and great stuff minimal expanding foam...your glassing your trunk....most folks don't want to go to such great lengths...some say we're nucking futs...we say their nucking futs for not going through such great lengths for the proper solutions....C'est la vie
mohawkboom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2002   #15 (permalink)
WhiteRabbit
Ultimate Member
 
WhiteRabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: bay area, california
Posts: 4,343
iTrader: (0)
WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned WhiteRabbit should not be questioned
Send a message via AIM to WhiteRabbit


im glassing my trunk cause tere is no way to fit a box bigger than net 6 cubes in a civic coupe. its actually the ONLY solution to that problem.

just like the ONLY solution to the problem of inadequate current supply is a new alternator.....
WhiteRabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


  
User Login
Our Partners
used new



Top 10 Threads
DIY: Head unit install
DIY: Amp Wiring 2k1civic coupe
Sound Deadening DIY
~~~DIY Front Door Speaker Install Coupe and Sedan~~~
DIY: Installing Rear Speakers in a Sedan
Post pics of your trunk w/ subs, amps and whatever!
HID in TYC setup. With no projector conversion. Video on pg 17.
DIY: Custom Trunk II !with access to spare tire!
MTX Jackhammer! Don't they know when to draw the line?
Its that time again...post your systems...

Site Supporters


aluminum radiator

Honda car spoilers


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:20 PM.

   
Advertising - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Jobs
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0
All Content Copyright © 2007 CivicForums.com