MamaBear2015

I drive my handicapped sister all over, all the time, as a passenger. I use the keyless fob, unlock the doors, help her into the passenger seat, and right about then, something in the protocols locks MY ( driver's ) side door! So I go around and try to get in and it's locked!

And when I just push the fob at other times, I want to unlock ALL the doors, NOT have to keep pushing it, to unlock the next one and the next one so that I can put something in the back seat.

What geniuses came up with this system for the keyless door locking protocols? And is there ANY way to change this, so it will JUST lock or unlock ALL the doors and KEEP them that way until we get into the car?

CraigW

iTrader: (1)

It should be 1st unlock press = drivers door only, & 2nd unlock press = remaining doors.

The system will relock (all doors) if it does not see a door open after set time interval.

If you are needing to press more then the 2nd unlock.... you may have some weak actuators.

And make sure your dome works with each individual door.

MamaBear2015

Yes, I know all that from using it, but it's very frustrating to not open all the locks at once, and have it relock the drivers side while I just opened the door to get my sister in. ( something like 15 seconds after I open the passenger side door! ).

CAN it be changed to just open or lock all, and to leave them the way I set them?

ezone

Door jamb switch is bad or broken?

The system never saw a 'door open' input from the open door, so it relocks the car in about 30 seconds.

(assuming factory system on an EX)

CraigW

iTrader: (1)

Yes, it should NOT be auto relocking if a door has been opened.

The defaults are likely not changeable.

MamaBear2015

Why would it lock, 30 seconds after I just opened it?

If we get a keyless alarm system installed, will it override all this junk?

CraigW

iTrader: (1)

Did you test that the dome works with all 4 doors ??

MamaBear2015

No, I will now...

ezone

If something in your purse pushed a button and the car unlocked without you knowing, would you prefer it to stay unlocked out on the street or in a parking lot?
Maybe you trust everyone, but I don't.

No, many aftermarket alarms will do the same thing if you won't fix the broken jamb switch.

Aftermarket alarm installed, probably $3-400 and still pisses you off.



Replacement door jamb switch, less than $6 MSRP.
Part# 35400-S5A-013
Takes a screwdriver and about 2 minutes to change one.
Factory stuff will work as designed again.

MamaBear2015

I just checked it. Had to open the door without the keyless because with the keyless, it turns the light on anyway. So I let the light go out and the door locked again, and then opened it with the key and the light didn't come on. So the switch is bad. It was relocking about 5 seconds after opening the door, but actually probably that 30 seconds, if you count the time from unlocking with the fob.

Now I run into the mechanic specialization problem. I have a great mechanic but he doesn't do body work and I doubt electrical either.

Is the door switch easy to replace myself? ( never mind - just saw the bottom of your post )

Oh, on the alarm system, 6 mo ago we were quoted $230 for alarm and keyless, including remote start, which sounds nice for when it's 5 degrees out.

MamaBear2015

Oh, how do you find these numbers, please? Would be very handy to know.

I just Googled: honda civic 2000 door jamb switch front passenger

to try to verify and don't see that number.

ezone

That is when the 30 sec. timer begins.



I use the real Honda dealer parts catalog.


Wrong year. This thread is about the 2002 car, yes?

MamaBear2015

Ack. Excuse me. We have so many problems going on with both these cars right now, it's making me dizzy ( not to mention our bank account ).

Yes, the 2002. ( don't see a blush emoticon here )

MamaBear2015

Is that available to us online?

ezone

All 4 doors use the same switch on that car.


Try googling my part number instead.
I did and got plenty of hits.......
First link I saw was to an ebay listing that was far more expensive than Hondas MSRP, so watch out.

And you were gonna drop a pile of money on an alarm with remote start just because this cheap little switch is broken.


No, but there are plenty of dealerships selling parts online that have the parts catalog available (many are selling at wholesale prices). Also, shipping fees from some can negate any price savings, so be careful.

Same catalog as what I use for the most part, but most are not as user friendly IMO.

I usually use this one for posting the diagrams in this site
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/

ezone

You could swap a good rear door switch for the bad one in the front door....that would gain you a working system until you buy a new switch.

MamaBear2015

All true, and thank you! Even at $10 it's a bargain!

MamaBear2015

Just picked it up here. Not worth shopping around for any better than this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301536182116

ezone

It's only $5.83 (MSRP) from any honest dealer.

MamaBear2015

I've actually seen videos of what they call "sliders" nowdays, where a woman is filling up the tank and some guys pull up on the other side, slide out, open the car door and take her purse, then the getaway driver hauls out of there.

So it's fine if all the other doors are locked when I'm getting gas, but it's a pain when I let my sister in and it goes and locks the driver's side door while I'm doing it.

Not sure how to balance those things out.

ezone

You asked why the system is designed to relock the car in 30 seconds, and I gave you a scenario that necessitates relocking the car automatically.

If something in your purse pushed a button and the car unlocked without you knowing, would you prefer it to stay unlocked out on the street or in a parking lot?

The gas station crime hype above has nothing to do with it.

MamaBear2015

In all fairness, they gotta get shipping too. And is it worth my while trying to save $4 by calling around town and then driving there? Nope.

I'm looking for a how-to video for when this arrives.

MamaBear2015

No, you're perfectly right. And I have more than just my wallet in that purse. Concealed carry. Don't want to risk that for some convenience.

thetut

This may help:

MamaBear2015

Kudos, guys. It turned out that getting this switch changed actually solved the problem where I was getting locked out of the driver's side while helping Jennifer into the passenger side. For whatever reason, now the driver's side lock remains open!

But it was a good thing that I gave it to my mechanic to do, along with a new thermostat and oil change. It turned out that the switch had fallen apart and he had to take the seat belt out and the door stuff, to get to the cable and replace it.