HID in TYC setup. With no projector conversion. Video on pg 17.

[ryox82]

I was wondering if anybody else had seen these? http://www.automotivelightingusa.com...oducts_id=1338 By the way they describe it you don't have to worry about heat build up and it shouldn't throw the cut off out of whack like when you try and put a regular HID bulb in the TYC projectors. Opinions? Flames? Beer?

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[ultimatetuner10]

Sounds, and looks exactly like any other plug and play kit ive seen. The bulb looks to me, exactly the same as every other bulb I have seen.

The trick behind non projector HID lights is the housing. Cars like the older TL, Escalade, Mercedes Benz, etc. had specially designedd reflectors shaped to give the HID bulb a precise cutoff. They were able to do this because the cars didnt run a bi-xenon system, and the high beam had a seperate smaller reflector away from the HID bulb, so the low beam (HID) housing could be designed without a high beam in mind, and made only to reflect low beam output. Here is an example.


The main part is the low beam (HID). The reflector is only on the top of the bulb to reflect light down and forward. The portion below the bulb has no reflector, its just flat. In addition, there is a "screen" in front of the reflector to reduce glare. The high beam is closer to the grille, and runs its own seperate bulb and reflector.

Basically, with cars that arent equipped with HID headlights from factory, there is usually a good chance that there will be glare because an HID bulb and Halogen bulb have different light beam patterns and a halogen housing wont be set up the same as an HID housing.

Hope that helped you understand it all a bit better.

Cliff Notes: The kit sounds like any other ebay kit, just more lies and more money.

[ryox82]

Mmmmmmmm well that just sucks. I wish I had the time and the money to do the full retro with the TYC's, just don't have the luxury of either so that looked pretty simple. I figured since that was an h1 bulb, wich my projector takes, it would eliminate the glare issue if what they said about the arc was in fact true. That was what had me curious in the first place.

[ultimatetuner10]

Originally Posted by ryox82

Mmmmmmmm well that just sucks. I wish I had the time and the money to do the full retro with the TYC's, just don't have the luxury of either so that looked pretty simple. I figured since that was an h1 bulb, wich my projector takes, it would eliminate the glare issue if what they said about the arc was in fact true. That was what had me curious in the first place.

Well in defence of TYC, I have seen some of their projectors do well without retrofits. Here is an example of an accord, just TYC and a P&P kit





You can try your luck. Pick up a reputable kit like Philips or McColouch, if you dont like it, you can always resell it easier than some no-name kit from China. You may get good results, you may not, I wouldnt take people's word here for it much because ive heard certain rumors here that I have proved wrong myself (for example the famous "intakes do nothing for our cars" when I felt a pretty good extra push from mine)

Id give it a shot, or better yet, see if you can somehow get a kit to try for free. Ask a friend or someone, if they can let you borrow one of the ballasts and bulbs, you can just pop em in and see how the cutoff is. That should definately help you with your decision. GL

[ultimatetuner10]

Word of warning...some Projectors do not fit HID bulbs. HID bulbs are skinnier but usually longer than Halogen bulbs, so doing a test fit before you buy would really help. Either that or call TYC, tell them your model# or application and ask if an HID bulb will fit

[ryox82]

lol i hear ya on the intake thing. I deffinately felt a zip when I put my weapon R in. Nothing insane or anything, but a difference. I felt a bigger difference when I corrected my oil levels and switched it to 5w-20 (I had 10w-30 in, old habbit!) Thanks for the help!

[ultimatetuner10]

Originally Posted by ryox82

lol i hear ya on the intake thing. I deffinately felt a zip when I put my weapon R in. Nothing insane or anything, but a difference. I felt a bigger difference when I corrected my oil levels and switched it to 5w-20 (I had 10w-30 in, old habbit!) Thanks for the help!

Im on 5w-30...trying to be nicer to be 118k mile motor

[Kevbotron]

Q:Is it recommended to run extra wiring to my car's battery, or install additional relays when I convert to HID?
A: No. By utilizing the latest in xenon technology, your new lighting will provide significantly increased light output while only drawing 35W from your vehicle's electrical system. That's about 30% less than a stock halogen bulb. The kit draws power from your stock halogen bulb socket, and doesn't require any complicated wiring or relays.

... said the guy who's car caught fire

[ryox82]

Pardon me for being ignorant on the subject, but what is the fire hazard? Wire gauge? Lack of fuse? No addition grounding?

[roll_outz]

I heared a lot of rumors about HID on TYC projectors H1.Some people say the HID bulbs are longer than normal hollogen.also depends on what brand you buy cheap or high end .Ive seen TYC projector w/ HID and some are not good and some work perfectly no glare at all.

[lemac]

Yes, +1 on that...

I have a set of ebay pnp kits and would like to know. I have had them in for about 6 months no probs.

[ryox82]

Originally Posted by lemac

Yes, +1 on that...

I have a set of ebay pnp kits and would like to know. I have had them in for about 6 months no probs.

Are they in stock housings or tyc's?

[gearbox]

tyc projectors for the civic are horrible (heck, even with a halogen bulb they arent the greatest). 1. if you decide to try a kit out, youre gonna need a heavy duty wire harness with relay so your stock wiring doesnt catch fire from not being able to carry the necessary current to the bulbs during ignition. 2. youre gonna have to shave down the housings, because the H1 hid kit bulb will not even fit. have fun doing that, and most likely getting shavings inside your light housing as a result. 3. great, you finally cut up the housing and fit the bulb in, you turn everything on only to get probably less light than stock making it to the ground and a terrible blurry cutoff line with glare and ghost spots all over. yay! throw everything away and start over.

[ryox82]

that sounds like tons of fun. I actually don't mind the TYC's. They aren't THAT different from what my stock were to be honest. I wish they were a bit brighter, that's a bout it.

[Kevbotron]

since we're on the topic .. I just installed a 6000k HID kit w/ the wire harness and relay that takes power from the battery, and I love the mod it lights up the road nicely and the blue looks cool.. Since I have 04' headlights I can also use the high beam at the same time, but it looks terrible b/c its the yellow halogen is it illegal to have 4 HL bulbs on at the same time? b/c if it isn't I'd get some standard white halogen high beam bulbs..