[jack123]

Hello,

Currently I have a single infinity ref 10" (1020w) sub. I am thinking of upgrading this to a JL Audio 12w3-v2 (12" sub).

Is this worth the upgrade? Will I notice a big difference? Also, does anyone know a good class d amp to push this jl sub?


Currenlty I have a stock electrical system and I think my system is rated approx 325 wrms (components 100 wrms x 2, single 10" ref sub - 125 wrms, infinity 6002i off deck power for rear fill).

If I upgrade this sub, it will push my system up to 500-600 wrms. Do you think the stock alternator/electical system can handle this?

[LowSky]

im running alot more stuff... youll be fine

[CustomXSpunjah]

im running 1800wrms off stock battery and alternator and i barely get headlight dimming when i turn it up. You will DEFINITELY be fine. dont rate your system by what the speakers can handle, but by how much power your system is putting out. Amp power+Amp power+Deck Power= ur actual draw

[LowSky]

CustomXSpunjah is right my two amps put together draw about 1200wrms

[gilmour13]

Depending on the type of music you like. A 12 pushs more air then a 10, creating a larger sound wave. So if you want deeper bass then do it. If you just want it to be louder then get a second sub.

Dont worry your civic make enough power. I just re did my setup and my hondas running 2 mtx1502 and 1 mtx 6500D the amps are loaded running 3 Infinity Kappa Perfect 12's a Pair of Perfect 6 1/2 compontents. Dash lights flick a bit, but its nothing a cap and take care of.

Gilmour Out

[CustomXSpunjah]

wow that is alot of power man. Those mtx's are pushing alot more than 1500 each ive seen them push easily 1800watts off 14v
dash lights shouldnt be flickin, they dont really draw that much that means your electrical system is taking a huge hit from your system. Ever considered a second battery?

[LudlamTheory]

Originally Posted by gilmour13

Depending on the type of music you like. A 12 pushs more air then a 10, creating a larger sound wave. So if you want deeper bass then do it. If you just want it to be louder then get a second sub.

Dont worry your civic make enough power. I just re did my setup and my hondas running 2 mtx1502 and 1 mtx 6500D the amps are loaded running 3 Infinity Kappa Perfect 12's a Pair of Perfect 6 1/2 compontents. Dash lights flick a bit, but its nothing a cap and take care of.

Gilmour Out

a 50 hz sound wave is the same size, no matter if it has been produced by 1 3" speaker, or 85 15" speakers
now the intensity of the wave, thats a different story...
dont mind me, im just anal about specifics

as to "depth", that 12 may have more of a low frequency response than that 10, but its not always "bigger = deeper"... more important is the install itself, the enclosure, the environment, etc...

[jack123]

I was thinking of getting either a:

JL Audio 12w3-v2 (12" sub).

or

Adire Audio Shiva Mark V (12" Sub)

or

Adire Audio Koda (12" sub)

Anyone know if they subs are comparable? Anyone have experience with any of these?

[C25A1guy]

Go IDQ

[CustomXSpunjah]

shiva>W3>koda

[Derrik]

Originally Posted by C25A1guy

Go IDQ

forgot to add image dynamics.... he might not know what idq is just off his head.

[davidc81]

the ref infinity is a pretty low quality sub, you will hear a definite improvement if you switch to the w3. the w3 has better power handling as well as improved build quality. if youre looking for a good value, check out the lower line resonant engineering subs. i run a 12" xxx of of a phoenix gold x1200.1 and i am very happy with the combination.

oh, and my amps are 1200w (pg x1200.1) and 900w (pg x200.4) rms and i have only minor problems with headlight dimming.

[C25A1guy]

Yeah, it really seems like PG amps like good current draw. I have 2 PG Ti600.2 in the RSX. No real issue with lights dimming, but current draw for the sub amp seems to be an issue.

[davidc81]

i used to run a zx475ti and zx600ti (same as ti500.4 and ti600.2) and did not have much problems with excessive current draw. are you running 0/1g wire to your trunk? what load are you running the ti600.2 at? at 2 ohms bridged that amp will draw much more current than at 4 ohms bridged even though it makes the same power. u also gotta remember that the ti's you have are class a/b and will draw more current than a class d.

[mrtrinh]

JL is a good company but don't go with the w3's. If you go JL's get w6 or w7... Im running 2 kicker compvr's and they hit hard and clean