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Old 06-15-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Radio/Pocket Flip-Flop DIY *UPDATED 2/6/05*

Being as I have personally done this in my Civic, and some people were asking about it periodically, I decided to go ahead and DIY it. Here ya go!(Sorry, I don't have a digicam, or I'd include pics, the pics in the Radio Removal DIY correspond to this, so if you have questions as to what something in there is, I should be able to refer you to the pics in that DIY)

Flip-Flopping Headunit/Pocket DIY:

Time Required: 15 minutes-1 hour depending on your install skills (15 minutes here)

Tools:
1. Phillips Screw Driver
2. Drill
3. Drill Bits (assorted, depending on screw size)

Materials:
1. Metra Double Din Dash Kit Part # 99-7865
Pic:
2. Metra Universal Pocket Part # 88-00-9000
3. Headunit
4. ISO Mounting Screws that come with HU
5. *OPTIONAL* some sort of tape (I had easy release masking tape laying around, so that?s what I used)

Step By Step Instruction
1. Use radio Removal DIY to remove Radio/AC Bezel (it?s much easier to completely remove this piece from the vehicle)
2. Remove Climate Control Pod by removing the three Phillips screws (2 at the top, one at bottom left), and the knobs off of the front.
*If Necessary Step* Remove Stock HU by taking out the four 8mm screws (two per side), and the OEM pocket*
3. Once the radio and pocket or dash kit if you already have an aftermarket radio installed (as I did), You should have an opening with nothing in it.
4. Snap the Metra Double DIN kit (#99-7865) into it?s place in the opening left by radio removal.
*From here, you can go about this two ways, mount universal pocket first, then move onto radio (this is the order in which I did this), or mount the radio then the pocket*
5. Assemble the Metra universal pocket(#88-00-9000). First things first, snap faceplate # 2 (numbered on the back, if you can?t see the numbers, it?s the faceplate with the thinnest surround in the pack)(the directions show it?s the universal pocket faceplate for Toyota vehicles).
6. Next, install the mounting bracket #2 (also shown in directions as Toyota mounting bracket). There are two ways to mount the brackets as well (they are lettered L and R, and correspond to lettering on the sides of the pocket). I first installed them matching up the lettering. (Once I slipped the pocket into place, I found it left an awkward place to drill into the stock radio mounting bracket in order to secure the pocket to it). I chose to mount the brackets incorrectly (matching the bracket lettered R to the side of the pocket lettered L, and vice versa, it screws on fine, so there?s no issue with that) due to screw locations when they are on this way.
7. Next, I slid the pocket into place, being careful as not to push the DD kit off the bezel. I did not screw this down yet (holes have to be drilled). Once I got it into position, I found that the angle of the faceplate on the pocket and the DD kit did not match to my liking when the L on the side of the pocket was on the left (radio/ac bezel facing me, looking into pocket). I turned it over, and found I liked the fitment much better. From there, I taped the pocket where I planned on it being once it was installed, matching up the seams all the way around the opening on the front where it matched up to the pocket. From there I found the holes in the mounting bracket with the easiest, and flattest possible spot that corresponded with the stock radio bracket. (I used the top, rearward most hole on each side, and the top second from the front hole on each side, as I liked the spots where the screws would be going through the stock radio bracket).
8. Carefully mark the center of each of those on the stock radio bracket.
9. I took the radio mounting bracket off of the bezel to do my drilling, so as not to bend it, this is not necessary, but I took a precaution as my work table top allowed me to sit it flat on there with the table top being in the ?C? formed by the bracket.
10. I drilled holes where I marked for my screws.
11. I mounted the pocket with the radio bracket still off, as I found it much easier to access where I had drilled. Screwed in the 4 screws snug, but not so much to over tighten, and crack the piece.
12. Mounted stock radio bracket, with newly installed pocket back onto radio/ac bezel.
13. Next, I slid my radio into place in the bottom DIN (won?t fit front loaded, have to go in from the back) to see where I?d have to drill for my 8mm screws that come with the HU for ISO mounting.
14. BINGO! The stock bracket was already drilled for double din, and the holes matched up perfectly to my HU (Pioneer Premier DEH-P740MP). I did not have to drill holes to ISO mount. You may have to depending on the placement of the ISO mount screws on your HU. If you do, mark them as you did with the pocket, but make sure you remove the radio before drilling).
15. The pocket and the HU are now flip-flopped (I never removed the DD dash kit once I snapped it into place)
16. Reinstall the Climate Control Pod by positioning, then reinstalling screws.
17. Reinstall Radio/AC bezel back into car, making sure you plug all plugs back up, along with RCA?s if you have them, and the antenna. I always forget to do one, this time I forgot the bottom plug (AC/Defrost/Recirculate Air harness)
18. Enjoy your newly flip-flopped radio and pocket.

I personally love this mod (I did it last month, just now getting around to writing DIY). I find it makes the radio much easier to view as opposed to the top stock location. I didn?t have many problems viewing my HU before, except on really bright days, as it had an organic EL display. But, for about 20-40 bucks (depending on local pricing on the pieces) I find this to be an exceptionally easy to do mod that gives you a custom look, and a better viewing angle, as it lowers the HU on the dash, flattening it out a good bit.



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it says at the top that I don't have a digicam. Some others have done this as well. I don't remember exactly who, but the pic of it completed is on here somewhere.
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Where did you order your parts from? I've found one guy selling the double-DIN piece but no one selling the pockets on eBay.
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I actually found a completed pic on this website (I knew it was there, but I couldn't remember the thread title). Anyway, I finally found it.



Pic credit goes to vicn77. The thread it came from is here:
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Now you have a completed pic. Once I find a digicam, I'm gonna take my dash piece off and take it apart and take pics of it step by step when assebling it. But, this gives you an idea of the finished product.
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jus did it to mine, better visibility looks way better!
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can u still use the oem metal bracket still?
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yes you do use the factory brackets...unfortunately i do not have that radio anymore but that's another long story.
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oh and if you need to order the trim you can go to your local circuit city and have them special order you one...the pocket most circuit city's should have regularly stocked...bestbuy might also carry them but they usually cannot special order any mounting kits.
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LOL, sorry to revie this thread guys, but I need some help. I already bought this http://www.crutchfield.com/S-3LBLc30...&avf=N&search= to run in conjunction with an HKS CAMP unit. I was wondering if I got that mounting thing above, since the player is a double din size, I could just cut that bar out, or mabye theres another mount I need to use. Any help would be aprreciated since I'm the biggest audio/visual noob ever. =)

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Yes, you can cut out the center piece to mount a double din (such as the Kenwood you posted) in there. I actually test fitted this unit in mine (w/o removing the center dividing bar) and it worked fine. I was actually considering getting that unit.
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I didnt buy it from Crutch, i ust sued it as a refeence =) but see popcorn, i posted about this again. I need something that fits, but both din sizes have to be the same to fit that. Someone said to use this met 99-7865: double din from Cioruit city, but i loked on their website and didnt se it lol. No one seems to know what the heck i need to get lol. =*(
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The double din kit in my DIY will work with it. I already test fitted this particular unit, and it fits.
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I'll update asap with step by step pics, as I got my new camera phone today. Anyway, here's a night shot (yeah, I sold the p8 cause I needed some money quick), put the 740 back in till I get a chance to change to something else...
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this is the best diy......i have a lot better visability now than i did b4.....thanks!!!!
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Added pic of the actual metra kit... soon to update with full step by step pics, when I get the time.
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fawk that top pocket and bottom din is exactly what i need.

i cant buy one like that? lol i suck at making shit...
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If you want you can send me your bezel, and the parts with return shipping prepaid and I'll install it for you and send it back.
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