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I know im going to boycott them. I hope all of you on 7thgencivic.com do the same.
THE TRUTH:
Every Music CDR since the AHRA was enacted has a hidden tax built into the price! (2% of the manufacturers sales) This is supposedly to pay the artists for home recording. Who Collects the Tax? The RIAA under the auspices of the AARC. Who shares office space with the RIAA and has many of the RIAA employees working for it. I haven't been able to find one artist that was paid a cent of the money. 4% is set aside for non-featured artists, of the remainder 40% for the featured artist and 60% for the labels. To date I have not found one artist who has received one cent of this money. (Source: RIAA website) In addition every CD recorder has a $2.00 surcharge built into the price that goes directly to the RIAA
The artists received not one cent of the money from the MP3.Com settlements of approx $158 Million to the labels. Who did??? The label themselves.
"SoundExchange" the new digital rights collective for collecting royalties from internet play is a division of the RIAA. They did not distribute royalties in July 2001 as they were supposed to do, but instead decided to wait until next year.
85% of all music is released by 5 major labels (Sony, EMI, UMG, Time Warner, & BMG)
Federal Trade Commission (FTC Statement)
At any given point about 20% of the music every recorded is available legally. The rest is locked away by the labels depriving the creators of a potential source of income, the fans of the music they want, while creating a false market for the band "d'jour."
The RIAA on their website say the cost of CD's haven't risen as much as they could have read our take it.
Read the settlement statement of the FTC findings against the Big 5
concerning charges that all five companies illegally modified their existing cooperative advertising programs to induce retailers into charging consumers higher prices for CDs
In 1999 music sales were up 11% not down
Testimony of Hank Barry quoting a RIAA survey
Chief Executive Officer
Napster, Inc.
Before the Senate Judiciary Committee
In the first quarter of 2000 music sales are up 8% over last year
Testimony of Hank Barry
Chief Executive Officer
Napster, Inc.
Before the Senate Judiciary Committee
Only companies can join the RIAA, they do nothing for the independent musician.
RIAA website guidelines for membership
Companies such as Napster and MP3.Com can't join RIAA due to the lawsuits brought by RIAA.
We can control the distribution of music, by not buying any and boycotting the labels other businesses as well.
See where the money really goes Steve Albini (producer of Nirvana's "In Utero)
Interesting comment from Fox Entertainment Group (FOX) Chief Executive Peter Chernin, who has about as much of a clue as Jack Valenti:
"Film makers can offer their audience a choice of ways to see movies -- they can view them in the theater, rent them, or buy them" "Music companies are much less flexible." "It's hard to buy one song. You're forced to buy the CD," he said.
"I'd like to introduce the recording industry to something called bottled water," Jonathan Potter, executive director of Digital Media Association, said in a recent interview commenting on Free vs Fee online music. His lobbying group represents music sites that are trying to promote and sell music over the Internet.
It is not correct to assume that every time a copy is made, a sale is lost, said Gary Shapiro, a spokesman for the Consumer Electronics Association. And, he also pointed out that many of the companies he represents, which make computers and other gadgets that enable people to copy music or download MP3s, have seen their sales fall much more sharply.
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I had no idea about the cdr 2% tax, and its more then disgusting, it makes me just wanna scream, and why arent the bands and such freaking out?, its just wrong
there making 2% of all sells on music cd-r's for home recording, and the bands are seening a dime of it, etc, and they are claiming sells are down, when they are up, etc
Originally posted by R3DL1N3 i got the new 311 cd today. 1st song ownz.
no doubt.......did you know if I used my discount and bought it at store cost it would have been $12 - that's just f*ckin ridiculous - it doesn't cost the RIAA anywhere remotely near $12 to produce the damn thing.
the riaa doesnt make the cd, mfg companys do, and total cost to produce a cd, is around 2 dollers or less, and thats paying the band, workers, the shit to do it with, etc, they are making over 1000% on us, and i dont have a issue with paying for a single song, but sometimes i dont want the whole cd,
Originally posted by xtiszx the riaa doesnt make the cd, mfg companys do, and total cost to produce a cd, is around 2 dollers or less, and thats paying the band, workers, the shit to do it with, etc, they are making over 1000% on us, and i dont have a issue with paying for a single song, but sometimes i dont want the whole cd,
true, BUT whenever I buy CD's that are not distributed by a member of the RIAA, it costs me between $6 and $9. RIAA artists are always above $10............greedy f*ckers.
The the RIAA needs to STFU and mind their own biznaz. . Here are my questions. .
1. You are innocent until proven guilty . .They have to prove that you violated the copyrights, so how can they prove it? Anyone could have been using your computer..
2. Don't you have to sell the stuff for it to be considered copyright infringement?
3. Isn't it easy to make the argument, I own the damn cd and I'm allowed to copy this to my computer and listen to it without haveing to take up my cd rom drive? (even if you don't own the cd, couldn't you still say that and told them the CD was stolen, but you still had the copy on your computer, so you just left it?)
4. Next. . It's not illegal for others to listen to your CD. Couldn't you make the argument that you were sending this music to your friend so they could hear it too, just as if you were driving down the street in your car and they could hear it?
5. Prove it came from their CD. . If you add a voiceover at the beginning of the track such as, "this is joe playing the hits". It's changed isn't it? How is that copyright?
6. If I do get sued. Someone from the RIAA is getting fu*ked up. I'll go through court and pay their stupid fines just like the judge orders, but not before I mount the defenses I have (above) and knocking someone from the RIAA's teeth out. .
7. That is all. . nothing to see here. . move along. . unless you like Bukakke..
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it has nothing to due with it being your cd, or not, its the fact your sharing it for free, giving it to someone else for free, thats how they see it, i totaly agree with you, and you are allowed to make backup copys of your cds/dvds