Front wheel tire tread issue's
03-23-2016
#1
Registered!!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bay Area , California
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 
Front wheel tire tread issue's
So I recently had to get 2 new front tires on my 2006 civic si .... and when doing so I was advised that I get a front end inspection immediately due to the wear on my tires ....I was pointed out that it wasn't wearing down evenly... any suggestions would be much appreciated.
03-23-2016
#2
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's
Front AND rear inspection....
4 wheel alignment needs to be done too, if the suspension doesn't have other obvious problems.
Where did you get the new tires?
4 wheel alignment needs to be done too, if the suspension doesn't have other obvious problems.
Where did you get the new tires?
03-23-2016
#3
Registered!!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bay Area , California
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
03-23-2016
#4
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
03-23-2016
#5
Registered!!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bay Area , California
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
03-23-2016
#6
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: TN
Age: 52
Posts: 14,780
Received 1,440 Likes
on
1,196 Posts
Rep Power: 338 
Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's
that seem to be more than alignments - it's rubbing against something.
Take to a shop ASAP to inspect what is going on down there.
Take to a shop ASAP to inspect what is going on down there.
03-23-2016
#8
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: TN
Age: 52
Posts: 14,780
Received 1,440 Likes
on
1,196 Posts
Rep Power: 338 Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's
if you cannot diagnose yourself, best bet is to take to a shop anyway.
I would also agree on their "Immediately".
If some parts are worn down enough to cause that without rubbing, it could come apart when you are in a highway. It will be much cheaper to solve while it's still assembled, and not apart while at speed.
Suspension parts issues are not to be taken lightly. (steering included)
Tires are the only contact point (solid) with the world.
Suspension is the only connection between tire/wheel assembly and the car.
Take them out and you are in the air, no control.
I stress - ASAP
I would also agree on their "Immediately".
If some parts are worn down enough to cause that without rubbing, it could come apart when you are in a highway. It will be much cheaper to solve while it's still assembled, and not apart while at speed.
Suspension parts issues are not to be taken lightly. (steering included)
Tires are the only contact point (solid) with the world.
Suspension is the only connection between tire/wheel assembly and the car.
Take them out and you are in the air, no control.
I stress - ASAP
Last edited by sdaidoji; 03-23-2016 at 07:55 PM.
03-23-2016
#9
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: TN
Age: 52
Posts: 14,780
Received 1,440 Likes
on
1,196 Posts
Rep Power: 338 Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's
Ah, your car is a 8th generation, not 7th, so moving to correct section.
03-23-2016
#10
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's
Looks like the first tire has worn down to the wear bars pretty even all the way across plus some extra wear on the inboard edge..... might be a little "toed out".
Other 2 show some inboard edge wear too.
The cars do wear inboard edges a little more due to negative camber in the design (especially in the rear), but incorrect toe adjustment will aggravate that in a bad way.
Even if the alignment were perfect:
Underinflation eats both edges of a tire,
Too long on the front eats both edges, plus they wear about triple the rate of the rear tires (lack of tire rotation maintenance)
rears tend to eat inboard edges and can get choppy if tires aren't rotated regularly
Probably just need to check everything for being tight, then do a 4 wheel alignment check-- and as long as the camber (rear) and caster/camber (front) are within reasonable specs, correct the toe settings or add a little toe-in.
And rotate tires on a regular basis.
Other 2 show some inboard edge wear too.
The cars do wear inboard edges a little more due to negative camber in the design (especially in the rear), but incorrect toe adjustment will aggravate that in a bad way.
Even if the alignment were perfect:
Underinflation eats both edges of a tire,
Too long on the front eats both edges, plus they wear about triple the rate of the rear tires (lack of tire rotation maintenance)
rears tend to eat inboard edges and can get choppy if tires aren't rotated regularly
Probably just need to check everything for being tight, then do a 4 wheel alignment check-- and as long as the camber (rear) and caster/camber (front) are within reasonable specs, correct the toe settings or add a little toe-in.
And rotate tires on a regular basis.
03-27-2016
#11
Registered!!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bay Area , California
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 Looks like the first tire has worn down to the wear bars pretty even all the way across plus some extra wear on the inboard edge..... might be a little "toed out".
Other 2 show some inboard edge wear too.
The cars do wear inboard edges a little more due to negative camber in the design (especially in the rear), but incorrect toe adjustment will aggravate that in a bad way.
Even if the alignment were perfect:
Underinflation eats both edges of a tire,
Too long on the front eats both edges, plus they wear about triple the rate of the rear tires (lack of tire rotation maintenance)
rears tend to eat inboard edges and can get choppy if tires aren't rotated regularly
Probably just need to check everything for being tight, then do a 4 wheel alignment check-- and as long as the camber (rear) and caster/camber (front) are within reasonable specs, correct the toe settings or add a little toe-in.
And rotate tires on a regular basis.
Other 2 show some inboard edge wear too.
The cars do wear inboard edges a little more due to negative camber in the design (especially in the rear), but incorrect toe adjustment will aggravate that in a bad way.
Even if the alignment were perfect:
Underinflation eats both edges of a tire,
Too long on the front eats both edges, plus they wear about triple the rate of the rear tires (lack of tire rotation maintenance)
rears tend to eat inboard edges and can get choppy if tires aren't rotated regularly
Probably just need to check everything for being tight, then do a 4 wheel alignment check-- and as long as the camber (rear) and caster/camber (front) are within reasonable specs, correct the toe settings or add a little toe-in.
And rotate tires on a regular basis.
03-27-2016
#12
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: TN
Age: 52
Posts: 14,780
Received 1,440 Likes
on
1,196 Posts
Rep Power: 338 Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's
6 inches?!?
Glad you went to take care of it... it definitely was in the h hazardous level, for you and however were close to you... you sure the car was not acting weirdly?
0.04 in play should be perceptible to hard to drive already...
Glad you went to take care of it... it definitely was in the h hazardous level, for you and however were close to you... you sure the car was not acting weirdly?
0.04 in play should be perceptible to hard to drive already...
03-27-2016
#13
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's
Shoulda been one noisy knocking squirrelly SOB on bumps too
03-27-2016
#14
Registered!!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bay Area , California
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 I was advised to get new lower control arms front & rear... but could only afford to do the front. Is it common for the rear to be a little more expensive than the front? $476.52 for the front control arms labor included.
03-27-2016
#15
Registered!!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bay Area , California
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 Big difference I can honestly say. I use to feel every little bump and potholes especially in the steering wheel, but not anymore. It feels like It did when I drove it off the lot.....
03-27-2016
#16
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's
I was advised to get new lower control arms front & rear
Why rear lower arms? Better get more opinions on this.
-------------------------
$476.52 for the front control arms labor included.
Front arm, leading (compliance) bushings only, about 25 per side (part only)
OR
Front lower arm complete with bushings, about 182 per side (part only)
Installation and alignment are extra and will vary a lot.
03-27-2016
#17
Registered!!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bay Area , California
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 Second opinions can be valuable.
Why rear lower arms? Better get more opinions on this.
-------------------------A quick look in an online Honda dealer parts catalog....(did not look at any aftermarket parts)
Front arm, leading (compliance) bushings only, about 25 per side (part only)
OR
Front lower arm complete with bushings, about 182 per side (part only)
Installation and alignment are extra and will vary a lot.
Why rear lower arms? Better get more opinions on this.
-------------------------A quick look in an online Honda dealer parts catalog....(did not look at any aftermarket parts)
Front arm, leading (compliance) bushings only, about 25 per side (part only)
OR
Front lower arm complete with bushings, about 182 per side (part only)
Installation and alignment are extra and will vary a lot.
03-27-2016
#18
Registered!!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bay Area , California
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 Second opinions can be valuable.
Why rear lower arms? Better get more opinions on this.
-------------------------A quick look in an online Honda dealer parts catalog....(did not look at any aftermarket parts)
Front arm, leading (compliance) bushings only, about 25 per side (part only)
OR
Front lower arm complete with bushings, about 182 per side (part only)
Installation and alignment are extra and will vary a lot.
Why rear lower arms? Better get more opinions on this.
-------------------------A quick look in an online Honda dealer parts catalog....(did not look at any aftermarket parts)
Front arm, leading (compliance) bushings only, about 25 per side (part only)
OR
Front lower arm complete with bushings, about 182 per side (part only)
Installation and alignment are extra and will vary a lot.
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
