[affixrider]

Okay so im not so sure how all this is going to go forum wise, but I figured id try it anyway just to see how much help I can get. Here in less then three months I will be returning from Iraq. While I was down here I reenlist and have been saving money for my engine build on my return. So far I have almost a brand new engine (low miles) that has been bored, sleeved and honed already. And I have a greddy ultimate management system. My goal is to reach 450+ hp to the wheels. What I need is some of the experienced people on here advice on all the rest of the parts needed for this, i.e. Type of turbo, manifold, injectors, pistons, cam, rods, flywheel, clutch, ect. Ect. I have right at 10 grand to spend if needed be. I know people say just go ahead with the k20 swap if I have the money, but ive done that to my buddies civic and I wasn’t that impressed with it, plus I like the idea of running the d17 with that much hp. Not a lot of people have that high of numbers. So regardless of your opinions im still going with the d17. so for the few of you running those numbers on here could you please help me out with this information, along with an est. on cost, website, and part number if available. If not ill do my best to look it up. Id like to go ahead and order my parts now so I can have it all ready for me for when I return. During the build process I will take pictures of each step as I go. Thanks in advance for the help.

[02BLKCIVIC]

youll want Hondata not Greddy.

my .2

[ronaldo9]

What he said full stand alone for sure to reach those numbers.

[affixrider]

okay thanks ill get it then

[sicma99ot]

going with the gt30 turbo?

i cant wait to start my build.

[affixrider]

Originally Posted by sicma99ot

going with the gt30 turbo?

i cant wait to start my build.

yeah thats what i was looking into. it looks like the best option so far. and good luck on your build to

[affixrider]

someone has got to know what i need for some of these parts...

[ryox82]

Bump for Andyman to jump in on this one.

[sicma99ot]

lets see here...some of this stuff is on my list, but im not looking to make 450+
i probibly only want 300 mid/upper 300hp. my build is ganna cost about 3k minus turbo kit and tranny swap.

pnp head
crower stage 3 cam
crower f/i rods (bore)
rc 1000cc injectors
valve upgrade
walbro fuel pump
gt30 turbo
head studs
clutch kit
fly wheel (some say dont go below 12lb, but im not sure bc i have an auto but planning a swap for my build)
3" exhaust/downpipe

thats all i can think of right now. id contact andy (andyman97) or clint (speedfoos) for turbo details.

[greeen01civic4d]

andyman is the only one to accomplish this as of yet, 489whp.

gt30 will create a problem, gt28 is a better option, but talk to andyman, he knows his shit, seriously

[sicma99ot]

oh yea get kpro. but you already knew that. without kpro its not even worth building.

[sicma99ot]

Originally Posted by greeen01civic4d

andyman is the only one to accomplish this as of yet, 489whp.

gt30 will create a problem, gt28 is a better option, but talk to andyman, he knows his shit, seriously

that is true

[affixrider]

Originally Posted by sicma99ot

lets see here...some of this stuff is on my list, but im not looking to make 450+
i probibly only want 300 mid/upper 300hp. my build is ganna cost about 3k minus turbo kit and tranny swap.

pnp head
crower stage 3 cam
crower f/i rods (bore)
rc 1000cc injectors
valve upgrade
walbro fuel pump
gt30 turbo
head studs
clutch kit
fly wheel (some say dont go below 12lb, but im not sure bc i have an auto but planning a swap for my build)
3" exhaust/downpipe

thats all i can think of right now. id contact andy (andyman97) or clint (speedfoos) for turbo details.

THANKS ALOT MAN. THAT GIVES ME AT LEAST SOME IDEA OF WHAT I NEED. AND YEAH IF ANDYMAN COULD HELP ME OUT ON THIS TOO THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I GOT ANOTHER TRANMISSION FOR MY SETUP, SO ILL BE UPGRADING THAT AS WELL. BUT YOUR THE FIRST THATS TOLD ME NOT TO GO BELOW 12LB. MAYBE SOMEONE CAN CLEAR THAT UP. I ALREADY HAVE AN 8.5LB FLYWHEEL, BUT I CAN GET ANOTHER ONE IF NEED BE. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE INFORMATION. +1 REP FOR YOU

[emjay]

ok .. since ur so determined and im doing my build ill give u a full response

Bottom end:

Rods: Crower ~$700 / k1 ~$500 bucks .. difference is just foreign vs domestic steel... both quality but jus a price difference

Pistons: Weisco .. if u bored it, u go oversized 75.5mm

Head:

Cam: Crower Stage 2 turbo Cam / or stage 3 if you want to make 450whp, but its a little rough on idle since its so aggressive. ~$400

Valve Train: Crower springs and retainers ~400

Head makes power, so i'd say do the port work while you can.

YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR CRAPPY PLASTIC INTAKE MANIFOLD. JDM fabtech or a d16y8 conversion will solve ur problem, it all depends on ur budget ... 1000 or 300 bucks lol

Fuel, u have to get walbro if u don't already, and go return !

ECU: 100000000% MUST GO WITH STANDALONE, EITHER KPRO with the hondata adjusted cam gear ~$1300 .. or AEM EMS ~1600 ... It all depends on your tuner, and what he's best with. I went with kpro because its more street friendly

Clutch: You have to go with a puck disk for that kind of power, forget any street disk .. Clutchmaster stage 4, Action clutch 6 puck

Injectors: RC 1000cc

Gauges: MUST GET AFR WIDEBAND if u don't have one, MUST MUST MUST MUST AEM is a good one

Exhaust: 3" straight through, either magnaflow 3" straight through muffler or vibrant 3" straight through muffler. Vibrant also makes 3" straight through resonators.

That should cover everything u need with the right turbo and tubular manifold .. 450whp d17 is a must! gt30 is a good one if u need anything else jus ask but that is one complete shopping list

[affixrider]

Originally Posted by emjay

ok .. since ur so determined and im doing my build ill give u a full response

Bottom end:

Rods: Crower ~$700 / k1 ~$500 bucks .. difference is just foreign vs domestic steel... both quality but jus a price difference

Pistons: Weisco .. if u bored it, u go oversized 75.5mm

Head:

Cam: Crower Stage 2 turbo Cam / or stage 3 if you want to make 450whp, but its a little rough on idle since its so aggressive. ~$400

Valve Train: Crower springs and retainers ~400

Head makes power, so i'd say do the port work while you can.

YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR CRAPPY PLASTIC INTAKE MANIFOLD. JDM fabtech or a d16y8 conversion will solve ur problem, it all depends on ur budget ... 1000 or 300 bucks lol

Fuel, u have to get walbro if u don't already, and go return !

ECU: 100000000% MUST GO WITH STANDALONE, EITHER KPRO with the hondata adjusted cam gear ~$1300 .. or AEM EMS ~1600 ... It all depends on your tuner, and what he's best with. I went with kpro because its more street friendly

Clutch: You have to go with a puck disk for that kind of power, forget any street disk .. Clutchmaster stage 4, Action clutch 6 puck

Injectors: RC 1000cc

Gauges: MUST GET AFR WIDEBAND if u don't have one, MUST MUST MUST MUST AEM is a good one

Exhaust: 3" straight through, either magnaflow 3" straight through muffler or vibrant 3" straight through muffler. Vibrant also makes 3" straight through resonators.

That should cover everything u need with the right turbo and tubular manifold .. 450whp d17 is a must! gt30 is a good one if u need anything else jus ask but that is one complete shopping list

THANKS ALOT EMJAY. THIS IS THE KIND OF INFO I WAS LOOKING FOR. AND SOME OF THIS I ALREADY HAVE. IM CURRENTLY TURBO RIGHT NOW WITH A T3/T4 TURBO. BUT IM ONLY PUSHING 196HP. I HAVE THE THREE INCH EXHAUST ALL THE WAY FROM THE HEADERS BACK, AS WELL AS THE P&P HEAD. AS FAR AS THE D16Y8 INTAKE MANIFOLD, IS THAT A DIRECT BOLT ON, IF SO I KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS SELLING ONE AND ILL BE SURE TO JUMP ON THAT DEAL. I WAS TRYING TO GET ONE CUSTOM MADE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I GOT MY I/C PIPING RUNNING TO THE RIGHT FROM THE THROTLE BODY(STANDING IN FRONT OF THE CAR LOOKING AT IT) BUT I CAN SWITCH IT UP IF I HAVE TO. THANKS AGAIN MAN. THIS INFO IS VERY USEFUL. +1 REP FOR YOU