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Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
Stock intake? For real? Holy shit, dude....
Seriously, I'm surprised this is the first of problems you've seen. Consider yourself lucky your motor is still in tact. You need to start from scratch and do shit right....
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Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
Yes I have the Stock IM on there and no I am not changeing it out until I get more cash. It should hold 12psi.
I think i may be dumping too much methanol in there and I ned to back that off some. I know it took you a few Engines before you got yours right too Andy and only through trial and error did you finally get one right that makes incredable power. I am not trying to break records but 90% of the people that boost on here have stock IM's and only a small handfull have had issues. I have already backed the boost down and i will have it so the Methanol comes in @ 12psi instead of 9-10 to prevent "soaking"
Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
Lol, I had to learn on my own. I didn't have anyone who knew shit to give me advice. But it's whatever. Do what you want, but there's a reason you're making no power. So yeah, don't listen and keep being cheap. Piggyback & stock im FTL.
Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
PICKED UP MY KPRO andy !!! cam gear ordered for 180 from hondata dealer in toronto ... as of intake manifold , im going with the d16y8 till next yr when i go EL style manifold, bigger turbo, and JDM fabtech 400 ftmfw -- am i doing things properly andy??my car is going in 2 weeks .. drunkenmagnum ...u don't need much money to change ur IM man ... the d16 will run u around 150 max and its good for 250-300 .. might be a lil restrictive but so is the turbo anyway and that can be upgraded next yr, u wanna be safe first then make power.. if im restricted to 250 with a fully built d17, then im not gona be sad, i have a rocking setup that will hold 350-400 .. jus gotta get the right parts .. with another 3 grand i can get to 400 ... JDMfabtech, bigger turbo and el style mani ... the rest of my setup is 9.5/10 wit the way im plannin it ..
i chose the turbo route because of civicforums instead of a swap, so the least i can do is to listen to the pros about their advice and follow their footstep, people like andy who u said has been thru many motors and learnt, im on my first one and its pulling strong for 11 months @ 196 whp with a piggy back .. im not gona argue and think that what im doing is right wen d17 turbo beasts are telling me otherwise
Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
doing it right means doing it right, don't go big without standalone, safety, i dunno reliability, not blow head gaskets, jus do it right ... i dunno .. NO HEADACHE = doing it right to me
i have a walbro, i have kpro, im gona get bigger injectors, and im getting the d16y8 .. is there any other intake manifolds other then the jdm fabtech fuck so fukin expensive
Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
None that I know of. It's possible to get a performer X and see if it will fit btw the head and firewall but I'm not sure. To be honest, nobody knows what the d16 im will do on a d17 when pushed.
Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
fuck man im worried about my IM now .. tuner and shop said it should be good for 250-300 there are d16s out there doing that daily on that IM but shit man im still worried
Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
fuck man im worried about my IM now .. tuner and shop said it should be good for 250-300 there are d16s out there doing that daily on that IM but shit man im still worried
Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
kms ? never heard of them ? there are d16s running 400s out there ... im not too worried at all i jus got off the fone with my tuner he's like i've tuned guys out of here with 4 and some change .. the Y8 is a very strong IM
Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
From what I understand, the KMS intake was a piece of shit. Rufus bought one recently from a guy here and promptly sold it on Ebay after it showed up. Apparently it's just an aluminum box with some vac ports and some runners TIG'd on to it. I think it went for a final price of around $150.
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Re: Help- Built engine makes less power than before (dyno graph)
Yep..I bought it off rufus.....Just the CNC flange alone is worth $150 bucks to me.......I can always have someone hack this one up & redo it or cut the flange off & start from scratch. Plus....I am in the process of having alot of it rewelded and I have already made it shine x10....I'm in the process of 1000 grit & a buffer It's almost chrome......
I see most of our flow issues in the head & camshaft....our intake/exhaust ports are so small it's ridiculous. All I really see that intake manifold for is to up the boost for a build. That box will flow plenty under alot of boost, it won't break, and it seriously looks dope all cleaned up! For $150 bucks that eliminates my $1000 need for a "good" intake manifold.....I can use that to get kpro. I'm debating wether or not to put it on now or wait until the build. It's not like I can boost anymore on my stock motor and I don't really think I'll see real gains until more boost is met.......so it might just sit pretty for motor build!
We'll see!
__________________ Its one thing to know your car is slow. Its another to take it to a track, and get it in writing, in front of 200 people, that your car is REALLY slow - Ashole (Gotta agree 17.2)
193WHP & 166 ft lbs @ 9 psi (GReddy Emanaged Beotch)
Dezod V3 kit w/ Tial Blow off Valve & Wastegate
Hondata Managed & SRT4 Injectors (waiting to dyno still...)
75mm Throttle Body
Dezod 2.5" Back to 3" Vibrant w/ Resonator
cam gear ordered for 180 from hondata dealer in toronto ... as of intake manifold , im going with the d16y8 till next yr when i go EL style manifold, bigger turbo, and JDM fabtech 400 ftmfw -- am i doing things properly andy??my car is going in 2 weeks .. drunkenmagnum ...u don't need much money to change ur IM man ... the d16 will run u around 150 max and its good for 250-300 .. might be a lil restrictive but so is the turbo anyway and that can be upgraded next yr, u wanna be safe first then make power.. if im restricted to 250 with a fully built d17, then im not gona be sad, i have a rocking setup that will hold 350-400 .. jus gotta get the right parts .. with another 3 grand i can get to 400 ... JDMfabtech, bigger turbo and el style mani ... the rest of my setup is 9.5/10 wit the way im plannin it .. 
(GReddy Emanaged Beotch)
