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Re: Who wants a JDMFabtech Intake Mani? Steve and I do! - Serious Interest Only
Yeah this is a serious inquiry. I have seen both Andy's and Justin's in person and there are both really nice, and I have been to jdm fabtech's website and seen the prices, and they don't scare me too much (you have to pay to play).
But like most people I do have a limit to how much I am willing to spend so I am looking for something preferably in the price range of the two designs. But I realize also how hard it would be to make, so if it cost a little extra I probably won't be too bothered.
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Re: Who wants a JDMFabtech Intake Mani? Steve and I do! - Serious Interest Only
well i think it will b easier for gerry if we all do the same IM. I am not looking into the side mount for a few reasons, nothing special, i just think its a lil easier to work with then the side mount, i could be wrong. but i am going for the top mount and i believe clint is also...
Re: Who wants a JDMFabtech Intake Mani? Steve and I do! - Serious Interest Only
LOL dude, its no inconvenience at all. I emailed Gerry a few hours ago and will let you know what he comes back with. I also linked him to this thread so he can answer questions like this directly if he feels like it.
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Originally Posted by LogicWavelength
This thread (T.E.A.R.S.) was inspired by speedfoos. We all know about his very public and very obscene battle against his car's engine.
There's a good chance that I'm not going to answer your PM.
Re: Who wants a JDMFabtech Intake Mani? Steve and I do! - Serious Interest Only
Hey guys I just got home. I havent posted up any threads on this stuff seeing as I didnt want to throw rocks at the hornets nest and piss anyone off for not having a vendor's account.
To clear things up:
-The current design of the topmount manifolds should severely reduce, if not eliminate the clearance problems that we encountered with Boiler's manifold without sacrificing power. The new design requires more cnc work but less welding, keeping the price the same. It will still have the radiused runner entry-ways but they will be incorporated into the plenum flange instead of separate pieces, eliminating much of the welding in the plenum/runner area.
-I can put virtually any size throttle body on these manifolds. However seeing as the IAC valve is located on the stock TB it will need to be relocated. I need to get another $75 to do this. Most likely you will lose the cruise control seeing as almost every aftermarket TB has no CC provisions. Unless you are going with a totally insane build, I would suggest keeping the stock TB seeing as its not much smaller of an ID than standard 2.5" IC piping.(Just about 2 3/8"or approx 60mm)
-As for the N/A manifold, The biggest reason I didnt want to make them is because the gains were minimal on a stock engine and most of the people wanting one had Intakes, Header and CAT backs. N/A manifolds are VERY picky when it comes to usable power curves and each combo of parts usually renders different results. The N/A design posted on the site felt great on my car with an intake, long tube header, no cat and 2.5" exhaust. It fattened the midrange up a bit. I'd imagine a stage 2 cam would have had better results. I wouldnt mind trying another one but I wouldnt spend the money unless you at least have a cam, supporting mods, and hondata. I couldnt promise huge gains but I bet we could squeak some more out of it. It would have to be a sidemount TB due to space limitations.
Thanks guys
P.S. My car isnt done, but with good reason. We are trying to finish the other shop car to go racing this year. We have a twin turbo 71 Nova going together. Full tube chassis, 1000+HP capable. We should have the car off the chassis table in about 2 weeks.
Re: Who wants a JDMFabtech Intake Mani? Steve and I do! - Serious Interest Only
Excellent stuff Gerry! I don't think you're even close to violating any terms of this site since you're not advertising your parts for sale, etc., etc. This is just an easier way to communicate than back and forth in email since Steve and I are both buying an intake mani from you.
So, if we keep the stock TB, there's nothing to worry about from an IACV standpoint, yes?
Thanks for posting up and un-muddying the waters a bit!
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Originally Posted by LogicWavelength
This thread (T.E.A.R.S.) was inspired by speedfoos. We all know about his very public and very obscene battle against his car's engine.
There's a good chance that I'm not going to answer your PM.
Re: Who wants a JDMFabtech Intake Mani? Steve and I do! - Serious Interest Only
Correct, Clint. I am trying to make these as bolt-on as a custom manifold can be with the exception of needing a vaccuum manifold and tweaking the IC piping a lil bit. You could pretty much pop one of these on a stock civic and very likely not throw any codes, it would lose power for sure though, hehe. Back when I was testing all kinds of ideas I found that as long as all the sensors are used and there were no vaccuum leaks the computer really didnt seem to mind. Realistically anyone buying one of these should have some way of making fuel corrections anyways so there should be no issues whatsoever from a tuning standpoint.
Re: Who wants a JDMFabtech Intake Mani? Steve and I do! - Serious Interest Only
Cool!!!
Well I am still interested in the N/A mani I am curious to see how much you can actually squeeze out of a D17. Right the moment I have megan race headers, exhaust, cat delete, crower stage 2 cam, Hondata k-pro, and a simota intake that could easily be turned into a side mount intake.
And I am thinking about picking up a spare block probably by spring, and trying some higher compression pistons I was talking to boiler a couple of days ago about some different piston combinations, so I think I am going to go all out with this motor and see what she can really put down
Re: Who wants a JDMFabtech Intake Mani? Steve and I do! - Serious Interest Only
you can put me on the list. I am very interested in getting a hold of one of these. Can someone pm me with the pricing information....... If there is any??
Re: Who wants a JDMFabtech Intake Mani? Steve and I do! - Serious Interest Only
For $700 it wont be like mine I promise. Not to sound cocky but I'd put mine up against his on a dyno and a photoshoot and you'll see where the extra $200 went. No stone was left unturned, these are really great manifolds and I think where I've gotten the price to now is very manageble for a serious enthusiast. The 3/8" heat insulator really works well, not to mention everything accepts the factory hardware and is still o-ring fit. Steve and Clint will be very satisfied with the new manifolds if they decide to pick them up.