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Old 04-27-2007   #1 (permalink)
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What is the truth about tuning?

Just out of curiousity, what is street tuning? Know how some people say " We street tuned it after installation of etc" I've never installed a turbocharger into a car. Always wanted too, but never had the funding....I feel I have researched a great amount when it comes to choosing parts, and installing them. The only problem is when it comes to programming the cars ECU, I get mixed lessons in this. I've talked to the professionals and they say that all turbo cars need to be tuned by a professional, with a dyno perferably.

I guess the question I'm trying to ask is, Is it feasable to install a turbo kit, and program (Lets say the AEM EMS) At home with a laptop, no dyno, no professional help, just street tuning? If not the EMS, then what about those PCS units that's been pretty popular? Do they require a lot of professional experience?

Or do you think it would be best if I just installed the entire kit, and got it towed off to a shop that can program the management? I just really want to install it myself, I don't really trust anyone to mess with my car unfortunately, and there are no shops whatsoever that can program an aftermarket EMS within, lets say I donno, 25 miles.

Hmm, maybe I should just scrap the idea of gettin a turbo kit, sell my car and buy an SRT4....... .... just seeing if anyone's still reading this or paying attention.

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Re: What is the truth about tuning?

Thats what i'm talking about! Forget this crap about buying a turbo, installing and tuning. I say just get an Evo and call it a day.

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Re: What is the truth about tuning?

Well regardless of your vehicle, you would eventually have to tune it to produce more power.....so I guess getting a factory turbo'd car would be just the same.

I know there's someone out there that can give me some insight.....I'll rep whomever helps me out, thanks...
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Re: What is the truth about tuning?

you'd be much better off having someone who already knows TEACH you how to tune. Its such a seat of the pants thing to street tune, if you're shooting blind, you'll be all over the place.
IMO, best way to tune the car is on the dyno, with a street tune polishing session immediately after.
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Re: What is the truth about tuning?

Is it normal for a company to get a car towed to them for tuning? I kinda like the idea of installing the whole thing and then sending it off. Does this sound plausible?

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Re: What is the truth about tuning?

Here's the beauty of kpro. You can run a similar map to what you're running and drive it to the tuner. For example, I'm running stage III cam, 750cc injectors, etc, etc and drove it almost 3 hours to my tuner with no issues. But I would definitely recommend professional tuning.
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Re: What is the truth about tuning?

Found this on a prelude forum for you-

- What is street tuning:
Street tuning is a method of tuning a vehicle on the street or in real world conditions. This is the best method of tuning a vehicle due to the fact that the load, temperature & general conditions you tune in are realistic.
Most tuners tune using a laptop, wideband oxygen sensor & engine management system which allows them to datalog everything including: air intake temperature, coolant temperature, throttle position, map pressure etc.

- What is dyno tuning:
Dyno tuning is the use of a dynamometer to measure wheel horse power and torque. Using a dyno to tune a vehicle is very important. A dyno provides a controlled platform for a tuner to make adjustments & see the repercussions to those adjustments. This will allow your tuner to make the safest horsepower/torque with your vehicle.

In most cases both Dyno & Street tuning methods of tuning are necessary to achieve the best possible results. Street tuning is extremely important because it simulates real world conditions. I.E. Temperature, Wind, Engine Load etc. By street tuning a vehicle, you can monitor real world drive-ability, engine conditions & general fuel economy. The reason dyno tuning is needed on-top of street tuning is to monitor wheel horse & torque power and torque so that you can achieve maximum horsepower results in a controlled environment using ignition & cam timing adjustments.
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Here's the beauty of kpro. You can run a similar map to what you're running and drive it to the tuner. For example, I'm running stage III cam, 750cc injectors, etc, etc and drove it almost 3 hours to my tuner with no issues. But I would definitely recommend professional tuning.
That's perfect! This probably sounds like the best idea for me and what I want to do. Great suggestion Thanks. (1up)


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Found this on a prelude forum for you-

- What is street tuning:
Street tuning is a method of tuning a vehicle on the street or in real world conditions. This is the best method of tuning a vehicle due to the fact that the load, temperature & general conditions you tune in are realistic.
Most tuners tune using a laptop, wideband oxygen sensor & engine management system which allows them to datalog everything including: air intake temperature, coolant temperature, throttle position, map pressure etc.

- What is dyno tuning:
Dyno tuning is the use of a dynamometer to measure wheel horse power and torque. Using a dyno to tune a vehicle is very important. A dyno provides a controlled platform for a tuner to make adjustments & see the repercussions to those adjustments. This will allow your tuner to make the safest horsepower/torque with your vehicle.

In most cases both Dyno & Street tuning methods of tuning are necessary to achieve the best possible results. Street tuning is extremely important because it simulates real world conditions. I.E. Temperature, Wind, Engine Load etc. By street tuning a vehicle, you can monitor real world drive-ability, engine conditions & general fuel economy. The reason dyno tuning is needed on-top of street tuning is to monitor wheel horse & torque power and torque so that you can achieve maximum horsepower results in a controlled environment using ignition & cam timing adjustments.
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Re: What is the truth about tuning?

The difference between all of the "tunes" is that when someone street tunes ur car they are tuning it for the best way to not overheat your car and blow it up. They also tune it so its almost like stock where you get good gas milage and so your not always loading up with fuel when just crusing around town. I agree with what everyone said about pro tuning because it would really suck to have all that money and time into it and then have it blow up because ur buddy said he can tune a car. Alot of tuning shops that i know will let you stay right there with them while they tune it so that you can kinda get an idea at what they are doing.
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