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Old 01-12-2007   #1 (permalink)
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did anyone here roll their quarter panels?

I'm running 205/40/17 on sportlines and my rear definitely rubs. I can't have my camber at zero in the back, so I'm almost a degree negative on each wheel in the back to keep them from rubbing. Although I don't think it'll be too bad on my tires (someone can correct me if I'm wrong here), I'd like to just have it perfect on all wheels. It doesnt rub inside, just on that little lip on the quarter.

so anyone that has rolled their quarters, how'd you go about doing it?
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no but id like to
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i'd like to do it too
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how are you rubbing? lol. I have that same size tire on coilovers and its dropped WAY low and it doesnt rub...thats wierd.
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what but the lower control arms? would they help any?
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^^ no
a degree of camber isn't going to do anything. I think I'm running a degree and a half (but also 2 and a quarter in the front).
The RIGHT way to do it is with a heat gun and a fender rolling tool. Call shops, it should be 50 or 75 bucks to get it done right. Using a hammer can mess up the paint on the outside too.
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a degree of camber isn't going to do anything. I think I'm running a degree and a half (but also 2 and a quarter in the front).
The RIGHT way to do it is with a heat gun and a fender rolling tool. Call shops, it should be 50 or 75 bucks to get it done right. Using a hammer can mess up the paint on the outside too.
thanks a lot man. I didn't really think that the 1 degree would hurt much. I don't understand why they make the quarter panel like that, with that lip sticking out. It's so close, but I got an alignment yesterday and had them put the rears at 1 degree negative (I needed one anyway) and now it doesn't rub, but it's still really, really close. I have a heat gun and a fender rolling tool but I'm just scared to try it on my own...haha. maybe if I'm feeling ambitious this weekend I'll give it a go.

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Its made like that because its easy to spotweld the floor to the quarter panel if you just spotweld the lip.
Honda doesnt care, they made the car to put 185mm tires on it at stock height, and they fit.
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how are you rubbing? lol. I have that same size tire on coilovers and its dropped WAY low and it doesnt rub...thats wierd.
It's called OFFSET...though I'm actually wondering too, because i have the same setup with wheels that are considerably offset (just shy of sticking out of the wheel well)....and I get nowhere near rubbing.
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Noooooooooooo, but I've had them shaved. Used to have some 225/40/17 and I had rubbing issues....Got the fenders shaved and still had rubbing issues, therefore I downsized to 215/40/17....Good to go now
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Honestly i'd just run the negative camber in the back. It will make your tires wear slightly more but as long as the toe is set to 0 you should be fine... thats what will really eat the tires. If the rolling of the fenders isn't done right then it can cause the paint to mess up... not worth it imo
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So yeah... Just to expand on the offset issue. Your setup probably has the center of the tire sticking out more towards the fender. I have Rota Mugen 10 replica's and I run 215/45 R17 and they rub the inside slightly when not lowered, but not the outside. When lowered they rub the outside slighty, but not the inside.

I guess just pay attention to all of the variables. Tire width, wheel offset, and individual differences between cars. Sometimes they'll make one with fenders that go in more I guess...

I have 225's waiting to get mounted on my wheels, so I will definately need to roll my fenders to be able to put those on.
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I've got 225/40s currently and had to roll my rear fenders. The car is lowered, I don't know how much from stock - I've got Tein SS adjustable dampers - so they rubbed when my old 215s didn't. But, here's how I rolled my fenders. I don't recommend this method on a car with a finished paint job, but since mine is currently primered, I didn't care.

Begin Ghetto-fab fender roll:

I took my daughter's aluminum T-ball bat, wedged it between the fender and the tire and rolled forward and back about 2 times each. its recommended to have someone SLOWLY move the car forward and back while you hold the bat to let the car do the rolling. However, since it was cold when I wanted to do it, my wife didn't want to help. I've got forearms like Popeye so I was able to roll the bat myself with the car parked. It worked, my fenders are rolled, my tires don't rub anymore, and the paint only cracked a little. But its primer currently so who cares.

End Ghetto-fab fender roll

The point of this is that rolling your fenders isn't difficult. Honda body panels are fairly thin, so since you have the right tools (in otherwords not just a T-ball bat), just take your time and it should come out right.

Here's a rainy day shot, shortly after I rolled the rear fenders. Can't tell much detail but it works for me.

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I just bought an 04 civic and at speeds over 100 my front right wheel rubs. I am running it stock with my steelies. why does it do this? is it just because of soft suspension and bumps in the road? I want to lower my car and stiffen the suspension and put on some bigger wheels, like 16s. Will this be worse for it?
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