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6th Gen Honda Civic In the years from 1996 to 2000 Honda released it's 6th Generation Honda Civic. This Honda Civic had a more aggressive front end and overall body style. It was an instant hit among import tuners.

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Old 01-26-2009   #16 (permalink)
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

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I recently did the rear disc sway, along with all the other hardware i also replaced my rear trailing bushings (the big ones) this makes a huge difference in handleing however i didn't do the proportioning valve, it seems to brake just fine. So i'm wondering how big of difference it would make to install the SI proportioning valve and will i even notice the difference.

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You will be lucky to get 20,000 miles or so out of each set of rear pads without changing the proportioning valve. Plus, it could be a bit dangerous in the snow/ice (I see you are from MN) if you do any trail-braking at all. Be careful!
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

i have an extra rear disk setup out of a 92... but idk if that would fit???
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

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You will be lucky to get 20,000 miles or so out of each set of rear pads without changing the proportioning valve. Plus, it could be a bit dangerous in the snow/ice (I see you are from MN) if you do any trail-braking at all. Be careful!
Do you have a source for the 20000 mile rear pad life?
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Do you have a source for the 20000 mile rear pad life?
Yes, well not a source but a personal experience. I'd have to look through my records to find the exact mileage but it snuck up on me awfully fast. Including many road course events my factory front pads on the car lasted 100,000 miles, so I'm not hard on brakes.
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Yes, well not a source but a personal experience. I'd have to look through my records to find the exact mileage but it snuck up on me awfully fast. Including many road course events my factory front pads on the car lasted 100,000 miles, so I'm not hard on brakes.
You don't have to look through your records. I just swapped so I'll find out soon enough for myself. I have just been curious about pad life. Thanks!
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You don't have to look through your records. I just swapped so I'll find out soon enough for myself. I have just been curious about pad life. Thanks!
No problem. Seriously, I can look it up if you want. It was about 10 years ago and I thought it was down around 14,000 or 17,000 miles.
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

I did mine with junkyard parts from a 97 Integra. Best advice I can give is to freshen/clean up the parts before you put them on the car. That is what I did and it worked great. Everything bolted up and has been on the car for over a year now.
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

Bear with me, I'm a car n00b...

I have an 98 LX and if I do this swap I'll need the trailing arm assembly, Si proportioning valve and M.C. and brake lines from the Si
Am I going to have to run all new lines from the master cylinder or by new lines do you mean just the flexible rubber ones that go to the calipers?

Also, what should I look for when hunting around junkyards?
By this I mean what constituents all the parts of a trailing arm assembly?

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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

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Bear with me, I'm a car n00b...

I have an 98 LX and if I do this swap I'll need the trailing arm assembly, Si proportioning valve and M.C. and brake lines from the Si
Am I going to have to run all new lines from the master cylinder or by new lines do you mean just the flexible rubber ones that go to the calipers?

Also, what should I look for when hunting around junkyards?
By this I mean what constituents all the parts of a trailing arm assembly?
Here is what I did on my 96 DX.

1. Read up online about what needed to be done. This is a great example from the DIY network: http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/ab_bra...275324,00.html. I followed this and it worked on my 96 Coupe.
2. Called around trying to find a wrecked 99-00 Si without any luck. So, I called a junkyard that was recommeded to me by a shop and they had a side impacted 97 Integra. Unfortunately, one of the trailing arms was bent (I found out after installing it and then going to the alignment shop). So, they replaced it, for free, with a trailing arm from a 94 Integra.
3. The trailing arm is essentially the big arm with the disc and brake assembly built into it and then 2 or 3 smaller arms that attach it to the car.
4. Refresh your parts while they are off the car. That is the best advice I ever got from my shop. I went online and bought new arms (the little ones), rotors, pads, g-stop brakeline kit (make sure whatever you get is for the car that the trailing arms are from), etc.
5. Take your time. The first side takes the longest, the second side is a breeze because you have figured it out by the time you get there.
6. Make sure you know or know someone who knows how to bleed brake lines properly.
7. After all was installed I was driving around the neighborhood (gingerly) and the rear brakes locked up the first few times I stopped. Once they settled in it has been great.
8. Make sure you get the e-brake lines from whatever car you get the trailing arms from. The Civic Si ones fit better than the Integra ones but both work. I have the Integra ones on my car right now.

You don't need to run lines from the master cylinder, just replace the lines that go to the caliper. That is what the G-Stop kit I bought was for.

I also replaced my shocks with adjustable KYB AGXs, Tein S-Tech springs and installed the Eibach Anti-Roll kit while I was doing the conversion, since the car was apart anyway. That was were I found out that the DX doesn't have the holes in the lower front arms for a sway bar so I had to get those arms from a 97 LX at the same junk yard.

I did all that work myself, so, if you have questions or want advice let me know.
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

Awesome, thanks for the advice!
I'm headin' out to the junkyard sometime this week
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

Question: are the EX M.C. and Civic Si M.C. the same or not?

Also, will the Si M.C. and/or the EX M.C. bolt to the LX brake booster?
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

No, they are not the same. Yes, they are interchangeable on the booster.
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

So is there much difference between the Si MC and the EX MC?
Would I be ok with an EX MC?
cause I found a refurbished one for 25 bucks
I know for sure I need to upgrade it though, cause I only have the puny little LX one

Glad to hear it, cause changing out the booster looks like it'd be kind of a pain

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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

The difference is slight, but I can't remember the actual size difference, sorry...been way too many years. I left my EX one on and went only with the SI proportioning valve.
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Re: 96-00 ex rear disc conversion?

haha, thanks anyways

From my research I'm pretty sure that the

LX - 13/16
EX - 14/16
Si - 15/16

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong
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