6th Gen Honda CivicIn the years from 1996 to 2000 Honda released it's 6th Generation Honda Civic. This Honda Civic had a more aggressive front end and overall body style. It was an instant hit among import tuners.
well it does kinda grall a little when let off the clutch. to replace those bearings it is a lot of work.should we just look in too getting a new tranny???
Don't get a new tranny or repair it. I've got the same problem on mine, and worse, and it runs. The tranny won't simply break one day. Personally I think it's a waste of money if that's your only problem. It's common.
But if you will change it, you should buy new OEM motor/tranny mounts. The rear engine mount should be injected with 3m windo weld. I theorize that the reason civic tranies end up having problems is due to the shitty engine mounts. Not enough support, and as the mounts age, the trany movies too much.
If your tranny is making noise and you don't know what it is, have it fixed before something goes wrong. Yeah your tranny can suddenly stop working, a clutch finger could break, a clutch spring can fall out, your noisy bearing could fail, etc, all while you're trying to accelerate out of someone's way.
If your tranny is making noise and you don't know what it is, have it fixed before something goes wrong. Yeah your tranny can suddenly stop working, a clutch finger could break, a clutch spring can fall out, your noisy bearing could fail, etc, all while you're trying to accelerate out of someone's way.
I really doubt that will happen. The original poster lists a very common problem, and yet I've never read about civics having major transmission failures. You sound like you live in fear. I'm all for fixing stuff before it breaks, but transmissions are fairly robust. The reason I don't recommend getting a new one is that the noise will probably return after another 50/100k. You have to find out what's causing the transmission to become damaged. Driving habbits? I still think it has to do with the rear mount not being reinforced enough, and perhaps if you do reinforce it, you can prevent transmission damage.
Last edited by Cleft_Asunder : 08-08-2008 at 02:45 PM.
I really doubt that will happen. The original poster lists a very common problem, and yet I've never read about civics having major transmission failures. You sound like you live in fear. I'm all for fixing stuff before it breaks, but transmissions are fairly robust. The reason I don't recommend getting a new one is that the noise will probably return after another 50/100k. You have to find out what's causing the transmission to become damaged. Driving habbits? I still think it has to do with the rear mount not being reinforced enough, and perhaps if you do reinforce it, you can prevent transmission damage.
Son, you're confusing fear with experience. I am 47 years old and have experience working on cars since I was 12. I've been there and done that. For example, I've put 300,000 miles on a Honda over 18 years and have had problems with cars at the most inconvenient times that you could ever imagine. I've had a tranny break on the highway, engine stalls in heavy traffic, a clutch cable break in middle of Route 1, etc.
Based on what the OP is vaguely describing it sounds like a either a bad throw-out or pilot bearing. Neither of which is part of the transmission. Either way it's not normal and should be fixed. Having a faulty drivetrain can be as dangerous as faulty brakes. It's not fear son, it's common sense.
I also have no idea what you're talking about regarding the rear mount. I don't recommend screwing around with it Inject it with what? God man, that's so ghetto! And that has something to do with his bearings? Inpect it. If it's busted then replace it. The only common mount problem with 6th gen Civics is the lower driver's side mount.
Son, you're confusing fear with experience. I am 47 years old and have experience working on cars since I was 12. I've been there and done that. For example, I've put 300,000 miles on a Honda over 18 years and have had problems with cars at the most inconvenient times that you could ever imagine. I've had a tranny break on the highway, engine stalls in heavy traffic, a clutch cable break in middle of Route 1, etc.
Based on what the OP is vaguely describing it sounds like a either a bad throw-out or pilot bearing. Neither of which is part of the transmission. Either way it's not normal and should be fixed. Having a faulty drivetrain can be as dangerous as faulty brakes. It's not fear son, it's common sense.
I also have no idea what you're talking about regarding the rear mount. I don't recommend screwing around with it Inject it with what? God man, that's so ghetto! And that has something to do with his bearings? Inpect it. If it's busted then replace it. The only common mount problem with 6th gen Civics is the lower driver's side mount.
Son, you're confusing fear with experience. I am 47 years old and have experience working on cars since I was 12. I've been there and done that. For example, I've put 300,000 miles on a Honda over 18 years and have had problems with cars at the most inconvenient times that you could ever imagine. I've had a tranny break on the highway, engine stalls in heavy traffic, a clutch cable break in middle of Route 1, etc.
Based on what the OP is vaguely describing it sounds like a either a bad throw-out or pilot bearing. Neither of which is part of the transmission. Either way it's not normal and should be fixed. Having a faulty drivetrain can be as dangerous as faulty brakes. It's not fear son, it's common sense.
I also have no idea what you're talking about regarding the rear mount. I don't recommend screwing around with it Inject it with what? God man, that's so ghetto! And that has something to do with his bearings? Inpect it. If it's busted then replace it. The only common mount problem with 6th gen Civics is the lower driver's side mount.
Replacing the rear mount with a solid poly mount results in insane vibration in the cabin. Stock oem mounts are crappily designed because they could have easily designed it so that there is a lot of engine/tranny support while still retaining a quiet cabin. For example, first and second generation Saturn S series manual trany mounts are A+. They have less vibration than honda mounts, yet provide like 3x more engine support!
It's not ghetto. You would think so at first but it's not. There simply aren't any good alternate methods for reducing engine movement without increasing cabin vibration. Also, the transmission can be damaged due to excessive movement. For example, going down a bumby road in first gear in a Civic can be a nightmare on the tranny. 6th gen civic mounts (if not others) ARE a problem. Maybe not when the OEM mounts are new, but after ~75K.
I'll take your word for it about the tranny, but what you're suggesting is that honda manual trannies are fragile as hell.
Last edited by Cleft_Asunder : 08-09-2008 at 11:55 AM.
Son, you're confusing fear with experience. I am 47 years old and have experience working on cars since I was 12. I've been there and done that. For example, I've put 300,000 miles on a Honda over 18 years and have had problems with cars at the most inconvenient times that you could ever imagine. I've had a tranny break on the highway, engine stalls in heavy traffic, a clutch cable break in middle of Route 1, etc.
Based on what the OP is vaguely describing it sounds like a either a bad throw-out or pilot bearing. Neither of which is part of the transmission. Either way it's not normal and should be fixed. Having a faulty drivetrain can be as dangerous as faulty brakes. It's not fear son, it's common sense.
I also have no idea what you're talking about regarding the rear mount. I don't recommend screwing around with it Inject it with what? God man, that's so ghetto! And that has something to do with his bearings? Inpect it. If it's busted then replace it. The only common mount problem with 6th gen Civics is the lower driver's side mount.
Civic ISBs are the most common thing to go in a Honda tranny. It would almost be worth asking Bone to come set up an account on this site wouldn't it Carl?
I've thought about poly-filling the mounts and every one who has done it says it's a temporary measure only to be used if you're tight on cash, because it simply doesn't last. Replace the rear mount, you'll be happier.
My guess is ISB as well, but as long as the tranny is off to replace the ISB, you might as well go ahead and replace the clutch, they almost always come with a new throwout bearing, get the flywheel re-surfaced and the machine shop can tell you if the pilot bearing needs to be replaced.
All of this can be done yourself if you're handy around cars and have a decent set of tools.
While I'm not quite as long in the tooth as Carl, my experience has also told me that if something makes a noise that it shouldn't, fix it as soon as possible before it encourages other parts to misbehave and makes noises they shouldn't as well, or worse.
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