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6th Gen Honda Civic In the years from 1996 to 2000 Honda released it's 6th Generation Honda Civic. This Honda Civic had a more aggressive front end and overall body style. It was an instant hit among import tuners.

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Old 08-09-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Civic ISBs are the most common thing to go in a Honda tranny. It would almost be worth asking Bone to come set up an account on this site wouldn't it Carl?

I've thought about poly-filling the mounts and every one who has done it says it's a temporary measure only to be used if you're tight on cash, because it simply doesn't last. Replace the rear mount, you'll be happier.

My guess is ISB as well, but as long as the tranny is off to replace the ISB, you might as well go ahead and replace the clutch, they almost always come with a new throwout bearing, get the flywheel re-surfaced and the machine shop can tell you if the pilot bearing needs to be replaced.

All of this can be done yourself if you're handy around cars and have a decent set of tools.

While I'm not quite as long in the tooth as Carl, my experience has also told me that if something makes a noise that it shouldn't, fix it as soon as possible before it encourages other parts to misbehave and makes noises they shouldn't as well, or worse.
I read the exact opposite, that it does last. What do you mean it doesn't last? Why wouldn't it? I Don't see what could go wrong. And I just filled a brand new mount. I didn't feel like using the old mount since it's 12 years old.

Did your friend even do it right? It's supposed to be put in in layers of around 1/4th inch. If you fill it ally the way, it won't dry at all even if you leave it for months.

Also, is it possible to remove the trany without dropping the engine? how difficult is it? Do you need to raise the car on a hydraulic jack? I wan't to buy a new trany because I am having issues with this one, and I can't afford the ~1000 cost of labor + a new trany.
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Re: clutch problem

The poly will vibrate itself out.

Yes it is possible to remove the tranny w/o pulling the engine, especially on a 6th gen. I don't even bother supporting the engine with a jack anymore. You can leave the front motor mount attached to the block by the one bolt (on a 7th gen anyway), and then just remove the tranny side and rear mounts, and drop the tranny out the bottom of the car. Just make sure it's up high enough to drag it out from underneath. If your front mount can't stay attached like the 7th gen, just have jack under the oil pan to help support the motor.
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Dude, I can just see the number of people that injected their mounts completely. They thought they were dry, put them in there, and the thing busts. There are tutorials here and there telling you to inject them, but never mentioning that you must do it in 1/4th increments.

I can't be sure about anything, but I just can't see how it could fail, unless it slips out, which isn't a possibility if done right. I mean that stuff is strong.
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The poly will vibrate itself out.

Yes it is possible to remove the tranny w/o pulling the engine, especially on a 6th gen. I don't even bother supporting the engine with a jack anymore. You can leave the front motor mount attached to the block by the one bolt (on a 7th gen anyway), and then just remove the tranny side and rear mounts, and drop the tranny out the bottom of the car. Just make sure it's up high enough to drag it out from underneath. If your front mount can't stay attached like the 7th gen, just have jack under the oil pan to help support the motor.
Thanks, I just realized a week ago while looking at my mounts that it may not require the engine to be pulled. I mean the trany is like right there, supported only by 1 mount and mount frame.

What would be my best bet on a new trany? A used one from say... a 99 or 2000 with lower miles, or a rebuilt one? What else do I need to consider? I imagine I neeed a gasket.
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To be quite honest, that's fine for them if it's done right. Most people won't take the time to do so. I guess it's the same as the ES poly inserts I'm running right now, just more permanent.
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Thanks, I just realized a week ago while looking at my mounts that it may not require the engine to be pulled. I mean the trany is like right there, supported only by 1 mount and mount frame.

What would be my best bet on a new trany? A used one from say... a 99 or 2000 with lower miles, or a rebuilt one? What else do I need to consider? I imagine I neeed a gasket.
Gasket? For what? If you're just replacing the tranny you won't need a gasket. There's a bellhousing in between the actual transmission case and the engine where the clutch sits. There's no fluid there.

The only thing I would buy are new axle spindle nuts and new axle seals to put on your 'new' tranny that you're getting if you get a used one. Rebuilt will always be better because it will have new seals, a new ISB, probably new needle bearing, etc.. whereas the used one won't.
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To be quite honest, that's fine for them if it's done right. Most people won't take the time to do so. I guess it's the same as the ES poly inserts I'm running right now, just more permanent.
Well I did it right, so I will post back weather they last or not. I would be shocked if they corroded. I was thinking about maybe coating them regularly with something. Silicon?
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