Swapping An Engine..What One??

[THG1]

I have a 99 civic ex with the d16...i was wondering what would be a good swap for it..i wanted a b16 maybe b18..but i am not sure. Also do any of you know of a good site to buy engines?? Thanks who looks in thread..thanks alot

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[01HonderCivic]

Oh don't be so sad, this site was made for 7thgen Civics, so nobody really registers on this site to get advice for previous gen Civics


But to answer your question, If you want to go turbo, get a B18

If you want to go all motor, then get an H22 with supporting mods

[civicholo]

forget the Bmotors... go with a K series... best way to go... trust me...

[Sohcvtec1995]

Stick with your current motor, and boost it. The power to money ratio is much greater then doing a k,B,H, or any of those....

[civicholo]

turbo d motors don't put near enough output as NA k motors... i would definately go with k and build it NA... FTW!!!!1!!!

[Sohcvtec1995]

Originally Posted by civicholo

turbo d motors don't put near enough output as NA k motors... i would definately go with k and build it NA... FTW!!!!1!!!

yea and lets do some math.. a k swap is like 5k, and its still stock. a fully built turbo d is like 3k. and will walk all over the stock k. k20a in a eg with kpro, i/h/e and a good driver= about a 12.5ish. a turbo d in same car with same driver= high 11's. and a way higher trap.

[auto84]

^^^ Bs On Times ^^^

[civicholo]

Originally Posted by Sohcvtec1995

yea and lets do some math.. a k swap is like 5k, and its still stock. a fully built turbo d is like 3k. and will walk all over the stock k. k20a in a eg with kpro, i/h/e and a good driver= about a 12.5ish. a turbo d in same car with same driver= high 11's. and a way higher trap.

you're forgetting about potential as well, buddy... that's about as fast as you're gonna get in a built d series... you can still build an A2 as a DD and have over 200 to the wheels... AND still have POTENTIAL... and there is no way in hell that a k series costs 5K... maybe a type r one but not no A2... and i'm sure that no one with an A motor is gonna keep stock cams... stage ones will probably net you around the same time as the turbo'd D... don't knock the k motors... way more potential than it's predicessors...

[Sohcvtec1995]

Not knocking just saying its not worth the money. honestly put together a price list with links to verify and we will do a comparision. and a d sereis is just as potetial as any motor. its all on whats done, and the amount of money invested, aswell as r/d..

[Voiceofid]

we are doing a k20 into an eg1 right now




the thread in fl section
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=280653

the swap so far cost around 8k, that includes the swap, which was 3500. a lot of people see that as a lot of money and "oh, i can get a b series much cheaper" but consider this, after putting the b series in, you go onto your upgrade path... new fuel pump, new fuel rail, new intake, header, exhaust, aem/crome/s300, you could've spent easily 1-2k into that stuff!

and you know what, with the k, it's all already done because it was required for the swap. and the setup my fiancee have will easily make 210-220, i plan on putting buddyclub stg 3 cams in it, and she'll be easily at 250-260 allmotor

so at the end of the day, we paid more for a lower milage motor (06 motor, car made in march of 06, we estimate the swap had about 6000-8000 miles) wouldn't you pay more to have a low milage b series?

don't forget that when you past someone on the highway, you simply downshift from... 6th

and at the end of the day, no replacement for displacement, and the k makes the torque everyone needs on the low end with the new vtc

[Sohcvtec1995]

"sigh"so you spent 8k so far.. can you include a parts list with prices. aswell as a time frame that it has taken you...

[xRiCeBoYx]

to allude to your original question......

http://www.jspecautosports.com/

[Voiceofid]

Originally Posted by Sohcvtec1995

"sigh"so you spent 8k so far.. can you include a parts list with prices. aswell as a time frame that it has taken you...

Swap
K-series engine(2006 K20Z1)
K-series tranny(2006 K20Z1)
K-series engine harness(RSX-S 06)
K-series charging harness(RSX-S 06)
K-series Alternator(2006 K20Z1)
K-series Starter(2006 K20Z1)
Clutch/Flywheel (2006 K20Z1)
RSX Type-S Oxygen Sensor(2006 K20Z1)
RSX Type-S Knock Sensor(2006 K20Z1)
RSX Type-S Clutch Slave Cylinder (2006 K20Z1)
RSX Type-S Halfshaft (2006 K20Z1)
RSX Type-S Throttle Body(2006 K20Z1)
RSX-S Intake Manifold(2006 K20Z1))
----------------------------------------- $3500
K-series ECU(RSX PRB 02-04) Plus Hondata K-Pro and 02-04 Jumper Harness
----------------------------------------- $1350
Header(DC Sport)
----------------------------------------- $300
Engine Mounts(Avid)
----------------------------------------- $250
Harness Conversion(Hybrid)
----------------------------------------- $250
Clutch Line(Hybrid Racing)
----------------------------------------- $60
Cooling
Hybrid Billet Hose Adapter(For Stock B/D series Fan switch/coolant temp sensor)
------------------------------------------ $25
FAL 12" Single
------------------------------------------ $54
TOP Rad Hose - RSX Type-S Top Hose(for EK/EG)
------------------------------------------ $10
BOTTOM Rad Hose - 99-00 Civic Si Top Hose(for EK/EG)
------------------------------------------ $10
Shift Stuffs
Karcepts Shifter mounting kit
------------------------------------------ $150
RSX Type-S Shifter Box (Buddy Club)
------------------------------------------ $107
RSX-S 02-04 Shifter Cables
Shift Parts to Connect Cables (OEM, easy)
------------------------------------------ $came with the swap
fuel stuffs
EAR-991945ERL - Converts OEM fuel filter to -6 AN fitting
EAR-165056ERL - Converts OEM fuel rail to -6 AN fitting
RUS-610020 x 4 - Straight -6 AN Hose couplers
SUM-220166N x 3 - Straight cut -6 AN to -6 An hose, Ports on FPR.
RUS-610160 - 90 Degree -6 AN Coupler from fuel filter to FPR.
RUS-632070 - 10 feet -6 AN Hose
BDL Fuel Rail
AEI-13109 - Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator
------------------------------------------- $380
Walbro 190/255lph Fuel Pump
------------------------------------------- $70
OEM Fuel Filter
------------------------------------------- $12
powersteering
K20 PS Pump
------------------------------------------- $came with the swap
Jackson Racing Pulley - P/N: 052-154
------------------------------------------- $50
52" Serpentine Belt
------------------------------------------- $15
02-04 RSX High pressure hose
------------------------------------------- $202

$6795 is the total so far

i'll throw in misc hoses and fluids, to even the bill to 6900$
we also got some misc stuff, like an
hks grounding kit $110
skunk2 battery hold down $20

and then coming up..
skunk2 2.5 inch mega power $360
convert axles to fit her car $150

so our total is estimated to about $7540

so far, we are about 2 1/2 months into the project. everything came on time, except the motor, we waited 2 months for the motor alone. the swap started last monday, and it will be finished this monday. cheers


edit1: i forgot to point out we got an aem k series conversion intake, that cost 180, putting our new total to $7720
edit2: the list for the parts was almost a verbatim of the stickied swap parts list on k20a.org located here, I modified it according to our swap (with p/s, no need for ep3 parts, etc...)
edit3: i cannot reveal where i got these prices, i could supply a few of the invoices with the company name blurred out, on the other hand
edit4: don't forget that looking at the prices, remember the motor has less than 10k miles, while most b series and d series used is in the range of 80-100k miles
edit5: i forgot to add the karcept radiator relocation kit, which brings up to $7780

[Voiceofid]

as for looking for a kswap, talk to george at orlando powerline, he have some amazing prices for k swaps

407-538-3045

[hwt101]

i have a k20a3 for sale for 750 plus shipping

[Jeenyusss]

K series FTMFW!