chozobody

Here we go. I have 17x7 +40 wrapped with 225/45z/17 on my EX sedan on stock springs and struts. Everything was fine, but I needed an alignment. Because of my rear wheels being out of spec, I bought an SPC camber kit. I had it aligned by a local shop, which lead to some problems. As soon as I left the shop, I took a turn at 10 MPH, and the wheel somehow went into the wheel well, scraping the edge of the tire, cutting a nice little groove into it. It is doing this now on every turn, tearing up my tires nicely. The shop is trying to tell me its something that I did, even though it started after the adjustments. Can anyone give me some insight to this subject?

gearbox

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well they prolly corrected all the negative camber in the rear and now that the tire is straight up instead of angled, its rubbing.

chozobody

Would running negative camber to the point of clearance be a problem with my camber kit?

sl33pyriceboi

iTrader: (3)

225 is too wide for our cars

There is absolutely no reason to run that wide of a tire. It make ur 100hp work that much harder.

If you are concerned about traction, just get a better quality and sticker tire. It will not only be lighter but it won't rub.

sl33pyriceboi

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You can run up to negative 3 degrees without dirastically affecting ur tire wear.

Anything higher will kill ur tire life

But to answer ur question, yes with enough camber you can flush the tire back in so u won't rub

chozobody

They came with the Rims. Ill probably downsize when I get the money.

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

the whole point of a camber kit is to give you more adjustability than you had before. you can do pretty much anything you want but tire life will be affected. ofcourse slashing them is much worse. i think you need to find a shop that has worked on lowered cars, they should know what to do so you will be safe turning.

chozobody

What would be a better size to run? 215 or 205?

MindBomber

They did their job properly by zeroing out your camber at the alignment shop, your tires are just way to wide like everyone here has already stated. Running a tire that wide unnecessarily increases weight and has negative affects on handling performance.

There are three possible fixes:

1. Swap to a 215 or narrower tire, the best option.

2. Have your rear fenders rolled, the second best option because you can maintain stock alignment specs on your basically stock suspension. (I have no idea why you bought a camber kit)

2. Adjust your camber to a be a bit negative, putting your tires at a slight angle so they clear the fenders when the suspension is being compressed. The issue with this set-up is that you put the weight of the car on a smaller portion of the tire, causing them to wear quickly.

/thread.

sl33pyriceboi

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^I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure 3 comes after 2... Lol

MindBomber

I'm a little drunk.

sl33pyriceboi

iTrader: (3)

Better off than me. I'm at work

lowlife9

hellaflush yoe sheet doe yo.

sl33pyriceboi

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And chozonody, just for the reference? It's called ur tires are "rubbing" not scraping

chozobody

I only referred to it as "scraping" because several large chunks have gone missing

sl33pyriceboi

iTrader: (3)

really hard rubbing. lol..... :P

chozobody

Trust me, I know a thing or two about really hard rubbing. Whats happening to my tires is alot less pleasurable.

maxtierney

iTrader: (5)

If you do go with a little negative camber, my advice is to get a tire you can flip or swap sides. Inevitably, you will get some inside wear. This way you can maximize the life of your tires.

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

so, i guess you are getting new tires?

chozobody

That I am. Put in the order today for some 205/45r/17 kumho ecsta ast. They said it should be in no later than friday, but as soon as wednesday too.

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

just make sure they dont get messed too. but with that size i think it should be okay with the current alignment (which im guessing they zeroed out). did you get a copy of the alignment specs they did?

chozobody

Yes I did, let me scan it, then ill upload it.

chozobody

Sorry for the late Response Gearbox.

Here is the alignment sheet they gave me. I cant put my finger on it, but something seems off from Honda specified range and these numbers.

chozobody

bump

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

let me see if i can find the old alignment sheet for my car. the values are within the specified range, but im not sure if those ranges are correct for a civic.

chozobody

Thanks gearbox.

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

okay i found my last sears alignment but they do not give ranges. its only a before/after thing. but i looked at yours and all my after specs fall between the ranges listed in the big-o printout. most are pretty close to your numbers as well. so i think you are fine on the alignment and just need different tires.

sdaidoji

iTrader: (1)

225 -> Lazlong had troubles with them too.
215 should have been fine, though...
RU rubbing the left side, then? (I remember UR comment on driver's weight :P)

chozobody

Surprisingly no, just the right side.

I also feel stupid now for ordering 205s when 215s would fit too.

sdaidoji

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you starting to have me worried of wornout shocks...