ondalow01

hey guys,

I recently got a newish engine, It has 11k on it and was sitting in a garage for about 4yrs, i just put it in the car but it wont start, car is turning over but no spark, timing belt is good. fuel, air or electrical problem... what do you guys think?

xRiCeBoYx

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have you tested it to see if the plugs physically spark?

ondalow01

No, how would i do this, i dont know how to mess around with the coil system.

Thanks

xRiCeBoYx

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Kinda need 2 people for this, but pull the coil and spark plug out, insert the spark plug into the coil pack, plug in the coil pack, hold the end of the spark plug close to a metal surface (exhaust manifold, frame, etc.), have someone turn the engine over.. if it arcs to the metal surface and makes a cracking sound, you got spark.

ondalow01

Ok man thanks ill try this, fuel pump turns on so fuel shouldnt be the problem and i have about a quarter of a tank.

ondalow01

Ok so i have spark, it wasn't the biggest thing ever but there was a small spark... but anything else i could check. i been without a car for 3 weeks now.

BlueEM2

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Go back and check all your connections, especially the throttle body and fuel. Make sure everything is hooked up and properly too. Something is amiss here. Did you replace the oil in the engine? Have you replaced the spark plugs? If you got a small spark then something might be wrong with the electrical system. I mean, it shouldn't be a huge spark but it should be very easy to see.

xRiCeBoYx

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You're not, by any chance, throwing any CEL codes, are you?

ondalow01

Nah man no CEL codes.. or battery or anything.

xRiCeBoYx

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this is fuking baffling me man.. hah.. I kinda wanna figure out what's going on because I have a low milage engine (I was told <1000 miles, and by the looks of the engine, it's that new) sitting around waiting for a happy tranny to come in to my possession before it goes in.. If you get it to work, let us know what kinda voodoo magic you used.

BlueEM2

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I'm baffled too man... go back and recheck your work. Check the relays behind the glove box. hmm...

ondalow01

ok, so no CEL light, there is fuel because i unplugged the main one and got gas all over my face, Ill check all the grounds next... Anything else that i could check would be appreciated.

HLC

^^ lol that sucks. are the injectors um injecting fuel? that would be the next step in the line for checking fuel. especially since you have spark and compression

Gold Ghost

def check every ground u can. my car is fussy as hell wit the grounds. if that dun help check all the sensors. correct me if im wrong but i think all the clips only fit on the sensor they belong to. um after that pray to ur mythical figure of choice

ondalow01

lol, ok i only see 3 grounds, the one from the motor to radiator support, the one from the battery terminal to the body and then to the tranny, any other grounds.. i dont see them, the spark is very weak tho all you see is the little tip of the spark plug igniting.

Gold Ghost

sounds rite. i have 2 more but i put them in. wow dude this is a total fail. when u r tryin to start it can u smell raw fuel comin from the exhaust?

xRiCeBoYx

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are they new spark plugs?

ondalow01

no i dont smell anything from the exhaust. i just cleaned those grounds too.

Gold Ghost

wow. im as confused as paris hilton at a mensa meeting.

xRiCeBoYx

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What did the spark plug look like when you pulled it to test it?

ondalow01

the spark plugs are new only about 7k on them so they dont look bad at all, someone said check my crack position sensor.. idk tho

xRiCeBoYx

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You fed your honda gremlin after dark, didn't you..

Gold Ghost

ur crack position sensor? lol sry im just bustin ya. i guess it could b the cps. r u 100% that fuel is gettin into the engine.

HLC

again. check the injectors. you have fuel going into the fuel rail. the last thing would be if fuel is flowing thru the injectors.

Gold Ghost

so ondalow01 did u get this thing to fire yet?

xRiCeBoYx

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mechanical agitation! lol, just kidding.. any progress though? for serious.. I'm about to subscribe to the thread just to find out what happened.

Gold Ghost

O great honda god we pray to you please make ondalows civic start.

HLC

^^^ that won't help

Gold Ghost

i still say it sounds like he isnt gettin fuel. he said he tested for spark an is gettin it. he didnt say how long the car sat while the swap was dun but its possible he has a cloged fuel line somewhere.

HLC

for the 3rd time, i say, check the injectors. fuel makes it to the fuel rail. spark is there and compression is there. still no start means fuel is not there. the only thing between the rail and the cylinder in terms of fuel is the injector. check it.