cs822

Hi,
(Hope I got the right forum). My 01 EX will turn over but will not start. It seems as if it is getting no gas. I think this because it did fire twice out of about of 7-8 tries but shut off within about a second. The car has about 150k and has never had a problem until today.
Please help.
thx

pheaton

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Yuck, anyone help this guy out?

Is the green immobilizer blinking?

You're sure you got gas?

Do you smell gas?

Turn the key to on, but don't start, do you hear the fuel pump?

Check plugs

What's the sensor that fails all the damn time guys? O2?

cs822

Yeah, I think the fuel pump is running. When I turn the ignition on, I hear a click from a relay or something behind the glove box. After about 2 seconds it will click again. In between the 2 clicks I can hear a faint noise coming from the fuel tank. Also, I don't know what it means, but there was a lot of pressure in the fuel cell just now when I took the cap off.

I don't get any kind of error such as blinking lights. I don't get an immobilizer light. I also don't smell gas and the indicator shows about 1/2 tank.

I had the plugs and the timing belt replaced at about 100k.

Any more ideas?
thx

gearbox

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dead battery?

greeen01civic4d

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haha, nice gearbox, thats funny as hell

ONE7thREBUILT

Yeah...I'd check the battery. DISCLAIMER: DON'T DO THISTo check the battery all you need is two metal clothes hangers. Take one and shove it into the black terminal connection of the battery (make sure to scrape back and forth a few times to ensure a good connection). Take the other side of that hanger and secure it to the frame (use a quick tie and a metal file to secure the hanger to bare metal). Take the second hanger and shove one end into the positive terminal conection. After that use the other end to just touch things with. If you begin to weld you're an idiot.

cs822

1 7th, I was reading somewhere about how to get the fuel pump out. I'll pay you $100 bucks to try your coat hanger method inside the fuel tank opening when I get the pump out. Oh what the heck, if you can weld a bead down inside the fuel tank, I'll give you $1000.

Seriously peeps....

DieMaster

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do u have a check engine light on? or does it turn on while cranking? i'd check the codes first. that should lead in the right direction.

also could u have water in the gas?

or your fuel filter could be cloged.

ONE7thREBUILT

You've got yourself a deal.

Envy

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well if your engine cranks and your fuel pump pumps, i dont think your batteries dead. i dont think your getting ignition. have you changed your spark plugs recently?

Envy

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also....maybe bleed your fuel lines? if no fluid comes out, then you know their clogged. then go upgrade em to stainless steel ones!

cs822

It just started. I went out to check a couple of things and decided to try it again. It started right up and is running as smooth as it ever did.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
thx

cs822

Sadly, it has died again. After a couple of short trips yesterday, my wife got in it today and it died about 200 feet down the road. I came and tried to start it but it died again within a second. 6 hours later I tried it again and it ran for about 5 seconds and again died. No sputtering or misfiring it just acts like you switched it off.

So once again I'm back at the point of it starting and shutting off after about a second.

Someone help, please....
thx

DieMaster

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all this time i thought it was a fuel delivery problem.

reoplace the crank and/or cam sensors. there the ony ones that the ECU cant replicate and it relises on them for timing. no sensor - no fuel delevery. and when they go bad they do just as u describe. when it works it works grea then dies randomly.

cs822

Thank you DieMaster! That is the best advice I've heard. So, are these sensors something that I could do myself given a couple hours of time? Or should I (maybe) drive, pull, limp it down to the shop for the mechs to do the job?

thanks again

gearbox

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if i remember, they are hard to get to. its almost like doing a timing belt service cause they are located near the crank. also some of the 01 civics had idle issues and needed a computer ecu reflash from the dealer.

SUSLIK33

It could be the timing belt itself.. Either skipped one teeth or just got expanded..

Mad Dog Tannen

Try changing the fuel filter if you never have. It is something that is often overlooked and who knows that might be it. Plus you can take a fuel line off and turn the engine over for just a second and see of it is pumping fuel. Then check the coil to see if it is putting out good spark. By taking the wire off and putting it up against the frame or something that will ground it (make sure you hold it with something insulated so you don't electricute yourself) and turn over the engine, if you see a strong spark (arc) then it is good. Of corse keep your eyes open for loose wires and deteriorating rubber. A good inspection for the obvious always a good first step. Hope that helps!