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I have a '02 civic coup 5 speed. It keeps overheating and blowing all the coolant. It seems to be fine on the highway but in city traffic or when i come to stops it will frequently overheat. I have been putting new coolant in on a regular basis but it's getting old.

BTW - I have replaced the radiator cap, and the thermostat in the last year. Also I have seen the fans working here and there so I know they do work...

PLEASE HELP! I am thinking about replacing the thermostat again because everyone says that is the problem but I wanted to ask you guys first.
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

try flushing your coolant system and then making sure you adequately bleed the system after refilling it. I had some overheating problems a while back, and replacing the rad cap, thermostat, and coolant flush, fill, and bleed stopped my problems
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

I doubt it is the thermostat. If it is fine on the highway then the thermostat has to be open and it is not going to close until the engine stops and cools down.
Above about 35 MPH there is enough air flow that the fans are not needed so that may be why you do not overheat on the highway but do when you stop or slow down. You said that you have seen the fans working but are you sure they are on when it is overheating? I think that I would first make sure that the fans are working when they should, not just sometimes. If the fans are fine I would make sure there is no air in the system.
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

Ok, How do i determine if the fans are working properly and which part i need to replace if so?
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

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Ok, How do i determine if the fans are working properly and which part i need to replace if so?
With the car off:
1)unplug connector going to the fan
2)run a jumper wire from batt+ to one prong of the connector (doesn't matter which prong as it will work either way)
3)run a wire from batt- to the other prong on the connector
Once you touch the second wire to the connector the fan should run (right away because it has only one speed-on/off). DO NOT touch the wires together. I would recommend wires with sheathes over the clips, like this:

http://s808.photobucket.com/albums/z...jumperwire.jpg

If the fan is bad, you need #6 (don't look at the price. lol):

http://www.bkhondaparts.com/billkay/...h&hidIrno=|006

But, I would just find one in the junkyard. Going rate for the fan assembly is about $50. Try craigslist and:

http://www.car-part.com/

Remember to test the fan motor before you buy it: see above mentioned test. Take your cordless drill battery to test as most yards won't let you in with any other type of battery.
Good luck.

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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

when it over heats does it go all the way up or it slowly creeps? if it slowly heats up try turning on the heater to full blast and open your windows..ive had the same problem before...
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

What do you mean blowing coolant? out of the overflow reservoir? you have a blown head gasket.
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

I had a similiar problem, changed the thermostat, rad cap and flushed the system, didn't help. Took into a shop and it turns out it was the head gasket. I couldn't believe it, but it was true. You need to do a pressure test.
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

when it overheats the gauge goes up fast. I use the heater for a little while but at some point there isn't enough fluid and the heat coming out of the vent goes cold too. You guys are saying head gasket but wouldn't there be oil in the radiator fluid?
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

Originally Posted by msanchez
when it overheats the gauge goes up fast. I use the heater for a little while but at some point there isn't enough fluid and the heat coming out of the vent goes cold too. You guys are saying head gasket but wouldn't there be oil in the radiator fluid?
if it was it would be like milkshake and the oil would have a little white in it
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

BTW - This problem started as an issue where the reservoir tube was popping off. Now the reservoir`is perpetually full.

I'm gonna check to see where the fluid is coming out. Also, there is no sign of oil issues. This is so confusing...
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

Friend's blazer had the EXACT same symptoms. Check your waterpump.
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

This is EXACTLY what was happening to me....it is 100% the HEAD GASKET....had mine fixed....water pump failures are rare....
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

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when it overheats the gauge goes up fast. I use the heater for a little while but at some point there isn't enough fluid and the heat coming out of the vent goes cold too. You guys are saying head gasket but wouldn't there be oil in the radiator fluid?
yeah it goes up fast when idle...there is no airflow through the vehicle as on the highway....not oil in the radiator fluid, but radiator fluid in the oil...how long have you been been driving the vehicle like that?...you probably have a warped head that needs to be milled...relatively inexpensive..
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

The reason you dont see milkshake look is because, the cylinder pressure is pushing into your coolant. The hole is probably not big enough to allow coolant into the cylinder, so you wont see much smoke or milkshake look. What you will see is cylinder pressure filling you coolant system and displacing the fluid out the resivior. It happened to me, I fixed it, it happened to tbohar, I told him it was the head gasket, he fixed it. Its the head gasket. For some reason the head gaskets are weak in the d17, cause my new low mileage engine is starting to show signs also. No overheating, just displacing rad fluid... But I know its coming, so Im prepared. You should prepare yourself also.. Make a nice clean spot in you wallet with some of your next check and fix it! Cause it wont go away. Good luck man. Oh and p.s. If you do your head gasket, listen to remerone and get your head milled. It costed me like 30 bucks and two hours of waiting, but it will save your skin in the end! If you do the gasket , put it all back together and the head is still warped, your gonna be BENT!

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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

Head gasket,,,,had the same thing happen to my daughters 01 civic ex. Multi layer metal head gaskets don't seem to blow out at one time,,,just seep cylinder gasses into coolant. When you have the head milled have them also check the valve guides for you. Buy parts on line and save a few $$. How many miles on the car? Have you replaced timing belt and water pump yet? May be a good time to do all at one time.
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Aye, 100% sure it's a head gasket. It's not even that hard of a fix so just tackle that first. you should however, find out why the headgasket blew... it usually does not go for no reason. Mine went because my thermostat was leaking and i failed to check the coolant.
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Re: Over heating Help!!!!

The problem is that you have fairys shiting fairy dust in your intake.
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