Originally Posted by mr22508

^^^ Good advice!!^^^ Do that first, and then worry about the wiring.

Originally Posted by Wayne K

I am actualy experiencing the "limp mode" issue currently. The code is 1361.
My question is that I was told that a flaw in the design of the 2001 civic head allows the camshaft to float. Honda recomendation is to replace the head???????????????? I have looked at remanufactured heads and they run from Napa $586 to 449 at Advance. Honda quoted 4500 to do the job. OUTRAGEOUS.

Originally Posted by mrmoe

Two months ago I had the timing belt replaced on my 01 civic and now I have a problem with a code 1361, excessive end play in the camshaft, showing up. Any reason to believe this is just a coincidence?

Originally Posted by DahrkDaiz

Btw, from what I've read/seen, the sensor replacement isn't a 5 minute job. It's a 2 hour job requiring you to take the timing belt cover off.

Originally Posted by Dana Nelson

Most definitely not a 5 minute and 1 bolt job. You have to do a whole valve cover gasket job along with it. I'm stuck at I've changed my CPS and the CEL still comes on and I'm getting random misfires after 30 min in drive. I noticed it only comes on in drive, idling in drive and driving. I'm checking the plug and wire next to look for an issue there. Its intermittently misfiring at 3500rpm. It does stall if left idling for over 30 min. I may check the catylitic converter or downstream O2 sensor because I smell exhaust occasionally.

Originally Posted by Colin42

Did you buy a non OEM sensor?

Originally Posted by DahrkDaiz

I've been having problems with my 2003 Civic LX (1.7 Liter, Automatic) for the past 2 months now. My friend was driving it to the dealer to get a couple of lug nuts replaced and he said the car died on him, but he was able to start it right back up. The dealer said I needed my timing belt and camshaft sensor replaced (I called bs on the timing belt, it had been replaced not even 9,000 miles ago) so I naturally called bs on the camshaft sensor.

About 5 days later while going up a mountain side, it stalled and died on me with the CEL lit. My friend said it sounded like bad gas/clogged line. So I engaged the fuel pump a few times and was able to get it started up. He put some dry gas in it and high octane and the CEL went off. The car ran fine for about 2 weeks. While driving around the mountains again, I got to the top and switched the car to low gear to coast down and it died, CEL came up, did the same thing as before. Car ran fine. CEL went out 2 days later.

After 3 weeks, I was driving and pulled into the bank, when I came back out, the car hesitated to start and the CEL was immediately on. I went to AutoZone and they said the camshaft position sensor malfunctioned (shoulda got the exact Error Code, but since the dealer claimed the CPS as well, I figured ok, this has been the problem the entire time). Car hesitated twice on the way home, drove it for about 50 miles. Didn't have a problem. CEL went out 2 hours later

Two days ago, it hesitated to start after after pulling into another bank. Both times I had been driving the car for about 30-40 minutes. My first instinct was it was going to die. I got back on the highway for 2 miles and sure enough, when I came to a stop, car died with CEL coming on. It hesitated to start. Waited for about 1 minute, engaged fuel pump 3 times, car started. This time I got it home in a minute and I high revved it and it wouldn't budge past 3500 rpm. Came back to the car 30 minutes later and it high revved no problems. CEL went out the next day (after driving nearly 200 miles).

I'm wondering if this is really the CPS going bad. I've read many forums and I've seen people replacing their CPS and that was never the problem to begin with, despite error codes. The car has never had a problem start on a cold start. The gas mileage is superb (I'm currently running around 35-38 Highway miles). Could this very well be a problem in the wiring? There is a bit of oil on one connector that's located near the battery that seems to go to the CPS (which I assume is located under the engine towards the front). I'm not a DIY car guy by any means and I don't want to replace something that isn't bad at all.

Other information:

152,000 miles, Oil change every 2 months (about 6,000 highway miles)
Timing belt replaced at 140,000 miles
Alternator replaced at 145,000 miles
Battery replaced at the 145,000 miles
Used high octane gas for the past 2 fill ups

This problem only started the week after I had ran the car on extremely low fuel, filled up one gallon, drove it for another day then finally filled up a full tank. I wouldn't think dirty gas would cause the CPS to malfunction, but I've heard of some strange issues with cars before.