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How often does everyone change their ATF?

Just curious since the 7th gens don't have a filter.. the dealership told me around every 30 thousand miles. Also, has anyone used Amsoil Synthetic ATF b4?
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

usually once a year with honda atf only. i also have external honda filter and B&M cooler. remember you are only changing 3 out of 9 qts trans fluid. so its better to change it more often to keep new fluid in there. these are prolly the worst auto trans honda ever made (01-05 models). even with all my careful driving and extras, its still on its way out soon and will need a rebuild.
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

Thanks gearbox, I tried looking for the OEM external filter kit, but haven't had much luck. I read that you got it off ebay, and it is off a CIVIC HX with CVT. I was wondering if you still had the sellers info, store name, or anywhere else I could find it?
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

what about manual?
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

just look up the "ATF cooler" tab on majestic honda (www.hondaautomotiveparts.com) for a 2001 civic HX with CVT trans. you want the filter and also the brackets that hold it in place.
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

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just look up the "ATF cooler" tab on majestic honda (www.hondaautomotiveparts.com) for a 2001 civic HX with CVT trans. you want the filter and also the brackets that hold it in place.
i meant manual transmission lol
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

i know, it was for the post above you. for manual trans, theres usually no need for coolers and filters.
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

Gearbox,

Can it be modified to fit the Civic 04 VP ? It will be nice to add one to it.

BTW, I just replaced the transmission dip stick since the rubber cover shrinks and it can't hold itself.
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

yeah i usually need a new dipstick every 6 months. the rubber just keeps getting smaller til it almost falls out, and then i have trans fluid going all over the place. i fit the HX filter on my EX with no problem, there is a good spot to mount it and then you just splice it into one of the trans oil cooler lines. here it is next to the header.

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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

do you have a write up for the cooler gearbox?
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

i did somewhere, im not sure where and if the pics work. but basically you can get a small B&M unit, wedge it in-between the condenser and radiator without bolting it in, then run the trans cooler lines to the aftermarket cooler. so pretty much i have my one cooler line going out to the radiator stock cooler first, then going to the trans cooler, then to the filter, and finally back to the trans. according to honda manual, line out is on the left when looking at the engine bay from the front, the right side is the return input back to the trans after being cooled. since the stock radiator cooler is a joke, you want the fluid to go to that cooler first, then to the aftermarket version. that way you have some cooling of the fluid. the stock cooler doesnt do anything because usually the coolant is the same temp as the trans fluid, or higher!
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

some pics, be sure to use real transmission oil cooler hose when making the connections. do not get generic or fuel hose. you will have a big mess when the rubber gets eaten away from the inside and goes into the fluid.

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these are the cooler lines coming from the trans. left one goes down to the radiator, then back up to the right side.

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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

Hey @Gearbox, nice on replacing the ground cable with the 4AWG cable! I'm trying to do that with mine, but I don't have any loop connector things for the end of the wire. lol.
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

I haven't read this thread quite a while. Thanks gearbox!! that looks very neat. I'll check and see if i can put that one in too. My new trans dipstick works very well. It holds a lots better. But I have to clean up all the fluid. It looks pretty dirty around the dipstick.
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try some carb cleaner and carefully wipe around the sensors. try not to spray the sensor plugs too much.
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

Ive been replacing the fluid every 25-30,000miles with Honda ATF. All the local dealers I called when I first got the car recommended 65,000miles.
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just look up the "ATF cooler" tab on majestic honda (www.hondaautomotiveparts.com) for a 2001 civic HX with CVT trans. you want the filter and also the brackets that hold it in place.
Thanks for the information gearbox. I ordered the filter, bracket (2 piece set), and 2ea oil pipe clips.
I'll install it on the return line, the pipe on right when looking down facing the engine from the front. At this point no plan to install an extra cooler.

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To answer the OP, every 30k here as well, and only with Honda ATF
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

gearbox,

I'll get it cleaned up nicely.

about the ATF, I did change ATF 6 times already. Now, it's about 79K and the trans is still running ok. Now, I am using Volvoline Maxlife ATF instead of Z1. I think I might suffer the MPG but I have to find the way to measure it systematically. I could be my driving habit also.
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

Ok...I'm most likely going to be buying an 02 Civic EX, with 78,800 miles on it right now.... Current owner has had standard maintenance done at the dealer, oil changes, brakes, etc. Not sure about the trans.

Assuming the trans fluit has NOT been changed at 78,800 miles, in Houston TX...is it still safe to change the fluid now? Or will it certainly ensue future damage?
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

once a year. for you, check the fluid condition first. if its dark black or brown, i would not risk changing it. you could get another 50-100k out of it on the original fluid. if the fluid looks red, you can prolly get away with a single drain and fill. then start yearly drain and fills.
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

Ok, cool. If the fluid is still red and doesn't smell burned, I'll go ahead and change it now. Drain and fill right there on the driveway, with honda fluid. What's the exact type for this car?
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

Now, why is it that everyone says to use Honda fluid only. I've recently changed my fluid 3 times to get most of the old stuff out. I refilled it initially with Honda ATF for the first three quarts. I was given this by a friend, but the remaining times, I filled with Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle that said it meets the requirements for the Honda fluid. Is this bad??
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

No. I fill my car with Kendall (conoco phillips) ATF. Works great!
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the honda fluid makes the shifts smoother and has special additives most other fluids are missing. i have heard of cases where switching to non-honda fluid destroyed the trans.
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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

....sooo, what's the right kind for this car?

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Re: How often does everyone change their ATF?

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