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Old 12-03-2009   #1 (permalink)
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2006 engine blocks cracking!

wow i knew the 06+ civics had their issues, even more than previous 7thgens, but this takes the cake.

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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

yep... that one is pretty bad
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

it seems like it's only happening to R18's.....hope K series are better than those
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there's a TSB for the cracked block...K series engines are not affected by this....
only R18 06-08 Civic....

I hope my 09 SI is immune from all recalls and TSB's....none so far...
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

im sure the k-series is not affected, thats a tried and true engine already compared to a totally new one. it seemed from reading some of the posts that an exhaust pipe that is too close to the engine block without any heatshielding is causing the issue.
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

you would think the engine block would be able to sustain some heat though. At least without cracking. I guess it's the heating/cooling/heating/cooling that would do it though.
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

yeah i think so. and they all said its cracking at the same spot, right in the middle where the lines meet or something. dont forget about the oil leaks, water pump leaks, and all the other issues with this r18. what a mess. whatever happened to honda motors lasting forever... good thing they kept a K motor in the si or honda would be finished by now. even the si has its share of problems tho.
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

Obviously this is an issue with 2006 R18 motors...Do you think HOnda fixed this design defect in the newer models of the 8th gen?

are the K engines in the SOHCs or just the Si?
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

K motors are only in the SI. im not sure if they fixed the problem or not in later years, but im thinking not. it would have to be a complete engine redesign, because the tsb says to replace the engine, but that isnt gonna stop the issue from happening again. if there was an actual fix, it would be in the tsb.
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

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it seems like it's only happening to R18's.....hope K series are better than those
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there's a TSB for the cracked block...K series engines are not affected by this....
only R18 06-08 Civic....

I hope my 09 SI is immune from all recalls and TSB's....none so far...

I hope that is incorrect. I found a TSB for cracked R18s, but it was only for years 2006 - 2007. The TSB came out in 2008. So far as I can tell, the 2008s are okay.
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

I got this info from this thread: http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mecha...all-trims.html

If you scroll down, click on the zip file ("all tsbs").
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

i believe the cause is from a porous epoxy. Honda's quality really has plumetted from 2001+ across the board for all of their vehicles. not only did they drop the ball on the 7th gen Civic, but the 2002/2003 Honda Accord, their flagship model, had a massive auto-trans recall.

here is where the 2006 cracked engine block currently stands on Car Complaints: http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/C...ne/index.shtml

if you check out their latest gen Accord, you will find that the 2008 model year (the first year of production of the the current gen) is actually ranked #2 for vehicles with the most complaints, mainly due to blatantly poor brake design that caused brake pads to wear out between 5,000-8,000 miles:

ranking: http://www.carcomplaints.com/top_vehicles.shtml

#2 - 2008 Honda Accord
#5 - 2003 Honda Accord
#6 - 2001 Honda Civic
#11 - 2002 Honda Accord


it's astonishing that Honda vehicles have taken such a steep drop in quality at the turn of the century. while all manufacturers are implementing cost savings throughout their vehicle lineups (mainly by making interiors plastic), most manufacturers are increasing their quality. Honda seems to be on the decline, which in my opinion can be attributed to new competition from Hyundai and Kia. these Korean manufacturers never really posed much of a problem before, but starting in 2004/2005 time they started to roll out some fairly decent vehicles. Hyundai/Kia's initial target market were consumers who are accustomed to the quality of an asian car, but want to pay less for their vehicle. enter Hyundai which consistently sells their vehicles for thousands less than Honda and Toyota, while also slapping a better warranty on their products. Honda's sales started to slip, and thus their profits shrunk, so they had to make up for it somehow so they went on a Value Engineering purge across the board on all of their products. well, as we can all see, the end result of that measure was disastrous. recently, Hyundai has started targeting German imports with their new Genesis sedan. my educated guess would be that it's only a matter of time before Hyundai develops their own luxury brand. i think Kia will be merged into Hyundai (currently Hyundai owns Kia but it's wasteful to have to market 2 brand names), and then a luxury brand will be born within the next 5 years

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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

this is true. i still regret not going with a used 99-00 civic at the time. older hondas (pre 2001) were bulletproof.
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

I just joined and have a quick question: of all the owners with 2006 - 2008 Civics with the R18 engine, are there many that have had no block cracking issues with hard use? Is there any pattern that suggests keeping the oil changed and coolant level up that helps?
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it seems to be an actual defect in workmanship or materials, so driving style or maintenance will not really change the outcome.
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

Thanks for the reply. The dealership here seems confident that my car is fine.
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yeah they wont really fix it til the crack happens and engine dies anyway. until then just enjoy the car. hopefully you still have some warranty left.
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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

Yeah, so I hope... From what I've read, it's not a design issue, but a number of bad castings. Many Civics in the production range are running fine. Btw, is there any data known about block crack expectations based on either miles or time?

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Re: 2006 engine blocks cracking!

Has anyone had issues after getting a new short block? Is there any hint that some dealers have used block sealant to close smaller cracks?
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