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well if you got the civic new, and unmodified, im pretty sure the dealer gave you crap tires... i dont know what year yours is, however manufacturer tires usually dont cut it...
i know they did for me (mines bone stock)...
treadwear 260. pretty much anything under 300 isnt gonna do you too good for too long....
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Passenger front to drivers rear, Drivers rear to passenger front.
Drivers front to passenger rear, Passenger rear to drivers front.
Each rotation, Tires are only ever in 1 of 2 positions.
The OE Potenza's lasted 42K and the Michelins I have are rated at 80K and are wearing perfectly with this method at almost 40K.
Careful.
Make sure to check the direction of rotation stated on your tires. On some tires, you can check the sidewall of the tire and see the word rotation along with the direction it is pointing at. If your tires are specifically made to rotate a certain direction, and you rotate your tires incorrectly, you lose traction, and as a result that means trouble trouble trouble.
Anyway, about the tire wear, it may not only be a camber issue, but a toe issue as well. Remember that camber is not as much of a culprit for eating tires up as toe is.
This is a terrible problem for honda at the moment. More of an issue than the 3rd gear si problem. I was doing roughly 10 or more 06-08 civic's a month at the dealership with this issue. Honda messed up the rear camber on only the 4dr models & hybrid...no coupes or si's at all. The problem was excessive negative camber in the rear. It eats the shit out of your inner rear tire. I have seen civic w/ 5-10k doing this aswell. It was a design flaw from honda on the new civic. They did release a tsb but did not come out with a rear camber correction kit until recently. So what happened was all these brand new civic ate there tires very very fast. If you rotated alot then both tires are affected. They sound like a damn tank when they do down the road.
Honda has a kit to replace the upper rear control w/ an alignment but only under regular warraty. My Honda district rep did help out w/ some out of warranty ones aswell.
The only down side to this tsb is the tires. Honda will pay for the kit and the alignment free of charge. They would never fight me on this. But when it came to the tires honda is screwing alot of people over. You used a chart w/ mileage and 32nds of the tire. You match the two to see if the tires are covered. Honda made this impossible. You have to have a brand new civic w/ 2/32nds or less tread within 10,000 miles.......pretty much impossible unless you are road racing. The most I saw honda pay for tires was 25% of only 2.
Almost every single customer was outraged...I never had a good experience with these. I did a shit load of these too!!!
so bottom line...get to the dealership and ask them to check your car for the rear camber kit issue. If the car has already had this done then it has a "C" stamped in the upper rear control arms.
We did so many we had 10 of these kits in stock...they are very easy to do and we could knock em out in about 1 hour and 30 mins w/ alignment.
One funny note is that aftermarket companies had rear camber kits way way before honda released there fix. One customer waited 1 year to get the kit when it was first discovered. She ate 4 sets of tires and she had to pay for them. She traded the civic in and got a cobalt....
Hope that helps!
__________________ Its one thing to know your car is slow. Its another to take it to a track, and get it in writing, in front of 200 people, that your car is REALLY slow - Ashole (Gotta agree 17.2)
193WHP & 166 ft lbs @ 9 psi (GReddy Emanaged Beotch)
Dezod V3 kit w/ Tial Blow off Valve & Wastegate
Hondata Managed & SRT4 Injectors (waiting to dyno still...)
75mm Throttle Body
Dezod 2.5" Back to 3" Vibrant w/ Resonator
I only have 20,000 miles on my car and so I decided to rotate the tires. I know I should have done it a little sooner, but anyways. I noticed that the front tires were quite a bit more worn than the rears, which I expected being a front wheel drive car, but the problem I ran into was when I got to looking at the back tires. They are smooth on the outside half of the tread, but the other half of the tread on the back tires is bumpy. I went a head and rotated them thinking that maybe they will wear back correctly, but now my car has front end vibration, especially when braking, and is loud to boot just driving down the highway.
Is this a common problem with civics? My dad's had tire problems also, but thought maybe it was a fluke. What have you all ran into?
My car is a 2007 civic coupe Lx. (hooray for cheaper gas... I paid $2.05 today)
You have two problems.
First you need to rotate your tires every 5k. It is very important on front wheel drive vehicles the bumpy wear you refer to is called chop wear and is caused by lack of rotation.
Second the uneven wear on the outside half of your tire is an alignment problem it ,ost likely is a camber problem but could also be a toe problem.
The best thing to do is to replace the worn tires align the vehicle and rotate the tires every 5k. Then recheck check the alignment every 6k. You should also check the air at least once a month
Check out how impossible 100% tire replacement is and the pictures of the tires. This should have been a recall, almost every 4dr civic is affected besides si's....
__________________ Its one thing to know your car is slow. Its another to take it to a track, and get it in writing, in front of 200 people, that your car is REALLY slow - Ashole (Gotta agree 17.2)
193WHP & 166 ft lbs @ 9 psi (GReddy Emanaged Beotch)
Dezod V3 kit w/ Tial Blow off Valve & Wastegate
Hondata Managed & SRT4 Injectors (waiting to dyno still...)
75mm Throttle Body
Dezod 2.5" Back to 3" Vibrant w/ Resonator
There is a recall on the 07 civic - the rear control arm is too long and causes rear tires to wear more quickly and also to wear in a wavy pattern, honda will replace this all for free and u may also be elligable for cash back on ur tires. i took mine ot my dealership and the did it in 2 hours
Honda has a kit to replace the upper rear control w/ an alignment but only under regular warraty. My Honda district rep did help out w/ some out of warranty ones aswell.
The only down side to this tsb is the tires. Honda will pay for the kit and the alignment free of charge. They would never fight me on this. But when it came to the tires honda is screwing alot of people over. You used a chart w/ mileage and 32nds of the tire. You match the two to see if the tires are covered. Honda made this impossible. You have to have a brand new civic w/ 2/32nds or less tread within 10,000 miles.......pretty much impossible unless you are road racing. The most I saw honda pay for tires was 25% of only 2.
I went though this issue, but got tires replaced for free. Had to go thought a regional manager. I drive a 07 ex- sedan.
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so right now im trying to get some money for my tires... i got after market wheels and tires at 500 miles, and they at first said they woudl give me 50% back cause mine were done at 17,000 which is covered, my car is at 21k and now tehy are saying i have to order them from honda for 190 each... i found the same tires for 80 each at store over here. anyways now they are saying that they wont do anything because i have aftermarket wheels and tires and i called bull$hit on that cause they sell aftermarket wheels and tires at the dealership. the dealership agrees with me and said they will gladly help me... but they jus gotta make sure they get reimberssed from honda.... so right now im trying to contact someone higher in the company directly.
The last poster, how did u get in contact with the regional manager?
Just call up Honda of America Customer Service and try to get a case started, they will then want you to visit a honda dealership. They should pre-call the dealership and give em a heads up. I always used a gentleman by the name of RON, here runs the midwest region. good luck.
__________________ Its one thing to know your car is slow. Its another to take it to a track, and get it in writing, in front of 200 people, that your car is REALLY slow - Ashole (Gotta agree 17.2)
193WHP & 166 ft lbs @ 9 psi (GReddy Emanaged Beotch)
Dezod V3 kit w/ Tial Blow off Valve & Wastegate
Hondata Managed & SRT4 Injectors (waiting to dyno still...)
75mm Throttle Body
Dezod 2.5" Back to 3" Vibrant w/ Resonator
I got a new 2008 EX Civic in January. Have 12.6k miles, last rotated tires around 8k. Since the stock tires performed poorly last winter, recently refit with Cooper CS4 Touring T tires. My wife's car had those last year, they seem to grip better in water and snow than the OEM tires. I always rotate tires regularly - my last Saturn (the crash and total loss was what led to the Civic purchase) had the original tires to around 60,000 miles but regularly rotated about every 6000 miles.
I'm not sure about the camber issues at this time, but will keep in mind.
ive talked to honda america... they just say that they understand and that im right... but i have to order the tires from them... they are 180 a piece... i just got soem for 62.99
My boss bought a 2007 Civic about a month before I bought mine. Both EX Coupes. He told me that when he went into the dealer for service that they noticed his rear tires were too worn for his mileage. Apparently there was a known issue? So I took mine in and the service dept found the same issue (different dealer). They replaced both my rear upper control arms, but charged me for the alignment. They even gave my boss a proration on his tires since it ruined them. I was over the mileage, so I got nothing.
I notice on my paperwork for that service, an ABS O-Ring recall? Looks like they only inspected though.
Well thank you all for the advice and I will start rotating my tires much more often. My bad there. I think I will contact my dealer even though it is a coupe and see if there is anything they can do about the rear control arms. I will keep you all posted. Thanks again.
