[brinday]

Hey. I just bought a brand new 07 lx coupe. I just went through my first tank of gas and only got 22 mpg. Is this normal? I didn't drive crazy or anything.. didn't stomp on the gas at lights and drove about 70 mph on the freeway. I would say I drove 70% freeway 30% city. Also, there was only one time I had the AC running. I just thought it would be at least 30 mpg. I've also seen a lot of posts on here saying people are getting really great gas mileage.
I love the car. I'm just kind of worried about this considering I drive a lot.

[Alpha 5]

It is New and I am guessing it is an auto.. Let it break in and then start watching the MPG. If it stays like this then it is under warranty and Honda should look at it.

[wincros]

[quote=brinday;4205271]Hey. I just bought a brand new 07 lx coupe. I just went through my first tank of gas and only got 22 mpg. Is this normal?

I am wondering too. Fifth fillup on my 07 EX coupe with manual transmission. 22 mpg. This is very disappointing. I have always gotten averages at city mileage or better on any car I have had. I got rid of my WRX which got 20 mpg under the same driving conditions. Except it weighed 500 pounds more, had 89 more horsepower and AWD. The Civic is a nice car otherwise.

Wondering how long to wait before seeing the dealer about a possible fix. Anyone heard whether this is a known problem?

[be0524]

When I got my 07 civic ex auto last year, I was so disappointed. My was like 23-28 mpg. Right after the first oil change, it got imporved, and the guy from the honda dealer told me that honda put a special engine oil at the beginning, and that'e the reason he told me. (he recommended the first oil change between 5k to 6k) After the oil change, mine works fine. For sure, your driving style also could be a part of the problem. I used to drive 300zx. It drank gas alot. When I drove my civic with the way I drove 300zx, gas mileage was so bad. Now I'm getting like 32-37mpg, usually I hit 400 with full tank.

[SpencerCoy]

hmm i drive the 5 speed lx and ive pretty much been over 29 every tank... and i drive it like a bat out of hell on crack... usually hitting 6k rpms on every shift :-D i love street racing.

[doof]

I have the same problem with my '07 LX. It's got a manual tranny.
The BEST I can get is 29mpg, a pretty far cry from the advertised 36 - 50mpg. I've got about 6500 miles on it now. It should be broken in. The funny thing is, when I first got it, it did a lot better. A couple of weeks after I got it I took it on a trip from Michigan to New Jersey and got 46 mpg driving 70mph with the AC on!
It started getting bad as soon as it started getting cold outside. Now that spring is coming and it gets a little warmer every now and then I see a difference right away in the mileage. I know that every vehicle is affected by cold but this is ridiculous!
I've taken it to the dealer 4 times and they can't find anything wrong. They say they just have to wait for Honda to respond to enough complaints about it.
I'm pretty disappointed. I traded in a '99 Accord for it. With the 200hp V6 I got 29mpg city and 35 highway... better than with my new Civic.
Before the Accord I had a '95 Civic. With that car I averaged 40 city and 47 highway! My brother in law is driving it now as a work beater and still gets 45mpg, and it's got well over 200000 miles!
I wonder if Honda is just losing quality along with almost every other automaker?
Very unhappy...

[doof]

Oh by the way, I love the car otherwise

[lordhelmet]

Have you changed the oil yet?

[doof]

Yes I did. I think probably about 1000 miles ago or so. Didn't make any difference.

[doof]

Something else I forgot to mention... Every now and then when accelerating it will miss or hesitate slightly.
And the dealer actually told me that they have had others with the same complaint. Everything scans fine but they just can't figure out what's wrong. No engine lights have come on or anything, the car is garage kept, and it's usually my wife driving. When I drive, I drive like I'm twice my age because I'm trying to save as much gas as possible. I live in Canada where California gas prices are pretty low compared to what we pay.
I bought the car based on the advertised 36 to 50 mpg.

[rocksinger]

What did you say 36 to 50 mpg... you must be thinking of the hi-bred my 08 4 door with man.tran. gets about 27 mpg and I drive like the little old lady from Pasadena.

[FoSho]

Well I have very similiar complaints on very new cars & in cold tempatures, especially this time of year. The cold makes it hard to keep combustion going & to ignite the air/fuel mixture....ever try to light a lighter in 10 degree weather?

-I also generally see my customers cars horrible on gas mileage brand new....they all report to me that after around 10-15k the gas mileage rose up......this being do to the engine being worn in.

You also must note that those MPG fixures on the window stickers are usually w/o any accessory drives ie. power steering, a/c......and are also done in a lab on a treadmill w/ controlled climate. Absolutely no wind resistance!!!

The Government actually passed new regulations on what companies can post. As of 2007 I believe every manufactuer in the usa had to start using "real world" estimates. Not lab figures...........

[doof]

Originally Posted by rocksinger

What did you say 36 to 50 mpg... you must be thinking of the hi-bred my 08 4 door with man.tran. gets about 27 mpg and I drive like the little old lady from Pasadena.

No kidding! I just looked on Honda's US website and they only say 26 to 34 mpg.
Here in Canada they're advertised at 36 to 50 mpg. Hybrids are rated at 60 mpg.
That dosen't make sense.
Seriously, when I went to look at the car they even had "50 MPG" written on the windshield of the showroom model with that yellow washable paint. And it was just a DX. Then they had the vehicle information on the side window and that said 36 city and 50 highway.
Why would they advertise them so much higher here in Canada? I don't get it.
When I brought it to the dealer, they acknowledged that I was getting bad gas mileage. I'm confused...

[doof]

FoSho said: I also generally see my customers cars horrible on gas mileage brand new....they all report to me that after around 10-15k the gas mileage rose up......this being do to the engine being worn in.


So if I only have 6500 miles you figure it will probably get better after a while?


FoSho also said: You also must note that those MPG fixures on the window stickers are usually w/o any accessory drives ie. power steering, a/c......and are also done in a lab on a treadmill w/ controlled climate. Absolutely no wind resistance!!!


Why did I get up to 46 mpg before then? And my old '95 civic (still on the road) gets around 45.


FoSho said: The Government actually passed new regulations on what companies can post. As of 2007 I believe every manufactuer in the usa had to start using "real world" estimates. Not lab figures...........


I wonder if that's why Honda's US website only says 26 to 34 while in Canada they claim 36 - 50? Makes sense.

[FoSho]

1> Yes, 98% of what I see and what my customers tell me.....you're mpg should go up with engine break-in

2>46 mpg in an 07 civic? That is freakin amazing...most my 02 civic was 40 on the highway....36-38 average....07's are bigger and have a bigger engine...plus they're ugly & very not-very-wind friendly j/k
Plus...45mpg in an old civic is freakin amazing....how are you coming to this conclusion?

3>Yes, this would explain why now new cars in america have realistic mpg......The government "just" recenlty made this legit....so you will be seein more of these realistic figures...I doubt canada has jumped on the bandwagon yet......

Plus you have to understand....if you had a product wouldn't you want to boast about it and make it look really well? We'll people run car companies.....and people like to make money...and not all people are honest....just how the business goes man.....car business is anything but legit .... I hate to say it! So, this is why you get "stretch" mpg fixures! But....they do get those figures....in a lab,no wind, and no accessory....so techanically.....it's not a lie