FGCOUPE

your right...i dont want fight with ya bruh'
cuz really...i have no beef with ya man.


so im done too

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

Ok i guess im not done.

wow... my car only makes 90whp stock, 273 is a BIG difference. Actually the difference is close to what you put down stock.

If you had a estimate for your power output that was more realistic then I would be more apt to believing you. Also you dont realize that supercharger belts get really hard to turn after 12 psi or so and you will have lots of slipping problems. You may want to look into a turbo if your going for seriously big numbers like that. A supercharger is better for low end power a turbo is better for high end.

FGCOUPE

when i said 100HP i was comparing the 200HP from the 06 civic to the power you produced over that number....thats all.

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

ooh ok. my point still stands. seriously do some research and if you got the cash to spend then the k20 is an awesome platform.

FGCOUPE

yea but to get 100HP i dont even need ****ing boost for this? lawls!

P2r spacer
CAI
Full exhaust
Hondata reflash 25HP
Cams

i could go on.....

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

show me a link to a 300hp NA k20

FGCOUPE

now stfu already....

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=CGliXoSUE0I[/youtube]

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

I diddnt see a dyno graph, the reason he kept with the evo is because of weight. It even said in the vid stock k20 internals w/ stock ecu

FGCOUPE

for **** sakes man!

the guy had 22PSI VS a ****ing stock K20 on stock internals and ECU

who cares!!

N/A WASTED BOOSTED......wnd of story, i care less about a ****in graph at this point dude.

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

ok man but its not 300 HP N/A that car prolly weighs 2200lbs yours weighs 2900 you will need prolly 300 to 350 hp to make it that fast. Why did you want to see a graph from my car then if you could care less?

FGCOUPE

i didnt believe you at the time thats all....i thought you were BSn me!

ahahah! cool ya got 300HP bruh'
but if i showed an OLD vid of a CRX smoking a $200k Lamborghini what excuse would that be he won? weight....Boost....?

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

no im not saying that car sux. that car is badass. It just doesnt have 300hp you said you could get to 300hp without boost. I dont think thats gonna happen so I called bs and asked if you had proof that someone has done that. That hatch is fast but it doesnt have the 300 hp that you said the k20 could make N/A.

spoonEM

iTrader: (15)

hahaha....that evo wasnt even trying "bruh".

If that evo really was 22psi, he wouldve pwn3d that car hands down.

FGCOUPE

regardless of whom was trying or not...

2006-07 Civic Si could easily get the 300HP as i mentioned N/A.
its not to far off man, Cams, Hondata, Camgears, Exhaust, CAI, etc..
then when the Kpro hits the market....BAM!

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

Ill be supprised if you could make 300 hp NA. Again show me a NA k20 with 300 HP. The k20z1 isnt much different then the k20a2 in the RSX-S. I want to see an actual sheet like I showed you. I dont believe its as easy as you think. with cams, I/H/E, and kpro you may hit 250

spoonEM

iTrader: (15)

CAI isnt worth a **** either FYI.

spoonEM

iTrader: (15)

Also, just a little info for you. Read what people are posting for times with their bone stock k20's in various chassis. As you can see, none of the stock k20's are running any faster than 12.5's. Yeah, some of them break 12's but those are all modded. I guarantee you an EVO with 22psi would beat those times, hence why I stated that EVO was not trying in that video. It was obviously setup by hybrid racing to make it look fast. Anyways, read away.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1468850

Now, on to your "300hp N/A" setup with a few simple bolt ons. Not so much. Do even just a little bit of research and youll realize that goal is rediculous. Impossible, definitely not, but not with some simple bolt ons like you mention. Read this thread that was posted by someone over at honda-tech:

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread...ostid=26433046

If you will notice, there are numerous replies on there stating it is nearly impossible for 300 whp from an NA k20.

Just do a LITTLE research and youll realize what your saying is rediculous.

FGCOUPE

hey thats cool by me....wanna know why?

cuz i aint even got a k20....lmfao!
i dont know why these guy figured i had a k20 when its the DX trim on my car?

but i do feel that the K20 can come very close to that 300HP goal.

CAI = 8HP
Cam = 30HP approx
Hondata = 25HP
Exhaust system, lightweight flywheel, Kpro, or whatever else.....

100 HP gain is not impossible N/A wise on any car really?

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dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

You where also saying that you had ~200hp which is what the k20 makes stock. The R18 makes ~140.... Your DEFINATLY NOT going to make 300hp on an NA engine like the R18

Those mods will only help that much if you other mods to back them up. Prove me wrong or give up! I would be willing to bet you wont get kpro either since the R18 is totally different the the K or D series engines.

FGCOUPE

there is a supercharger kit coming out for the R18A1 which has a number right now of 400HP.

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

ya rite haha. link me please

FGCOUPE

right now it is confidential info i cannot release, so i cannot even state the manufacturer, but as ive mentioned it is a Full build kit of course, as stock internals would not make it. The problem right now they are having is because of the shortage of room (engine is reversed of the K20, Exhaust on the R18A1 is up front where the K20 is in the rear....) is making something like a Ti bracket for the s/c itself.

i should mention....cuz i stated exhuast...haha!
is the S/C would be up against the side of the firewall VIA intake man

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

why would the bracket material matter....... Its seriously starting to sound like ricer talk lol

FGCOUPE

nope...its cuz it needs a stronger bracket then simply using steel, its in a real tight/bad spot where it needs to be at.

but thats ok man, you have the right to voice your opinion!

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

Definatly, i want to see this. PM me when you get it lol

FGCOUPE

fo sho bruh'

thing is the same company will be making the s/c for the K20 which claims 500HP **** ya

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

Better figure out how to sleeve that block before boost. The Iron portion of the stock sleeves is much more thin then even the d17

http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...ine/index.html

And 500hp on a k20 is much easier then 400 will be on the r18

FGCOUPE

yo....nobody said it was gonna be easy bruh'
who knows maybe when its final release date arrives will actually be like
300HP or so....

im stoked eitherway man.

FGCOUPE

oh btw...
some peeps dont realize that even though were speakin of a 1.8L here that these new R18's already have forged internals

dopes6070

iTrader: (25)

http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...ine/index.html

The pistons in these pics look like castings to me....

"Here's one that we've NEVER seen before: note the shape of the sleeves. There is a one-piece, ovalized, aluminum sleeve built into the block with ductile iron cylindrical sleeves pressed inside of it. Looks like boost might be a challenge with this block." -HT