DIY: Short Throw Shift Adaptor Install
09-29-2001
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Hey guys just ordered the Solo short throw adaptor yesterday and ended up getting it today..so i installed it and did some pics...
seeing that some people are weary of doing the install themselves here's a walkthrough and you can judge yourself..i figure most people will be able to do it themselves it's definitely a simply install.
some people were phased by the fact that the solo didn't come with instructions..but quite honestly with something so straight forward it's not necessary.
but for those who wish to see it, how it's put in, or just want pics or instructions to refer to ... here it is:
DIY Short Throw Shift Adaptor Install
seeing that some people are weary of doing the install themselves here's a walkthrough and you can judge yourself..i figure most people will be able to do it themselves it's definitely a simply install.
some people were phased by the fact that the solo didn't come with instructions..but quite honestly with something so straight forward it's not necessary.
but for those who wish to see it, how it's put in, or just want pics or instructions to refer to ... here it is:
DIY Short Throw Shift Adaptor Install
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Rep Power: 0 trying to get used to the reduced throw...you definitely feel a bigger difference with an aftermarket **** since the stock one just sits so high in comparison...the solo one i got claims 20-30%...with the stock **** it seems like it's on the lower end of the claims...but with the aftermarket **** i have...i can definitely feel the reduction...and although it feels to me like it almost reduced the throw by 40% i'm guessing it's near the top end of their claims... i didn't get a chance to measure and calculate the actual reduction in throw.
it's great i'd recommend it anyday..it's relatively a cheap mod and improves the feel quite a bit...
and the occasional binding that's common with cable actuated (SP?) shifters seems to be reduced quite a bit..
it's great i'd recommend it anyday..it's relatively a cheap mod and improves the feel quite a bit...
and the occasional binding that's common with cable actuated (SP?) shifters seems to be reduced quite a bit..
09-29-2001
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Rep Power: 0 Nice job with the DIY toasty[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]. I could have used those DIY instructions yesterday when I installed my solo adapter. Took a long time for me.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 toasty your DIYs kick HUGE @$$!!! i did your shift **** and boot, that made stuff sooo clear. thanks dude, when i get the solo i'll be SURE to lok back here
09-29-2001
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Rep Power: 0 thanks... it just seems that from reading the forum a lot of people are hesistant on doing things even when they're fairly simple installs or minor modifications, i mean a lot of the DIY's i've made on my page are simple things...but it's simple ones like these that get many started...and many thinking...and i hope it's got people coming up with creative modifications they can do to their car...cuz i'd definitely like to see more unique things come our way.
miltownvtec: got it for $108 Canadian...after tax/shipping/insurance.
got it from ppsonline.net vs. contemporarymotorsport.com
it arrived the very next day...ordered it via the toll free number they had 1-877-fun-auto
works cross canada...don't know if you can reach it from the states though.
miltownvtec: got it for $108 Canadian...after tax/shipping/insurance.
got it from ppsonline.net vs. contemporarymotorsport.com
it arrived the very next day...ordered it via the toll free number they had 1-877-fun-auto
works cross canada...don't know if you can reach it from the states though.
09-30-2001
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Rep Power: 0 I saw one website that had short shift adapter instructions (not 2k1 specific) and it said to place some thread locker (like lock-tite) on the screws that hold it in place. Would you recomend doing this or do you feel it is not needed.
10-01-2001
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if you screw them in tight enough it digs into the shaft...i don't think you necessarily need lock-tite..however just to insure...i also put electrical tape around the shaft behind it. ... you'll notice i did this for my shift **** as well (in case you're wondering what that red band is around the top of my shift lever.
pazzmore:
it's a fairly easy install and i'd recommend it as long as you feel comfortable using an allen key and a screwdriver and feel comfortable removing your center console etc...it's fairly easy.
just make sure you'r eon level ground. and your ebrake is up. since you don't want to have your shifter disconnected and your car rolling down a hill..heh =o)
it improves the feel quite a bit....
i have read a few sources that say it's harder to learn to drive stick on a car with a shorter throw...so if you intend to teach someone or are still getting used to driving a stick..then you might want to consider that. but quite honestly i don't see how it could be more difficult.
i find that it makes the shifter feel sturdier and stiffer too..but that just might be psychological =o)
if you've never done anything to your car before..this will probably take you about half an hour to get it in.
otherwise it's just a 5/10 minute job.
if you screw them in tight enough it digs into the shaft...i don't think you necessarily need lock-tite..however just to insure...i also put electrical tape around the shaft behind it. ... you'll notice i did this for my shift **** as well (in case you're wondering what that red band is around the top of my shift lever.
pazzmore:
it's a fairly easy install and i'd recommend it as long as you feel comfortable using an allen key and a screwdriver and feel comfortable removing your center console etc...it's fairly easy.
just make sure you'r eon level ground. and your ebrake is up. since you don't want to have your shifter disconnected and your car rolling down a hill..heh =o)
it improves the feel quite a bit....
i have read a few sources that say it's harder to learn to drive stick on a car with a shorter throw...so if you intend to teach someone or are still getting used to driving a stick..then you might want to consider that. but quite honestly i don't see how it could be more difficult.
i find that it makes the shifter feel sturdier and stiffer too..but that just might be psychological =o)
if you've never done anything to your car before..this will probably take you about half an hour to get it in.
otherwise it's just a 5/10 minute job.
10-03-2001
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Rep Power: 0 black2k1vtec..sweet where'd you order from?
stLvtec...
i don't believe they'll ever come out with a true short shifter for our car..we're on a cable actuated system not a rod linkage...only thing i could think of is bring yours to a shop and get it cut and rethreaded.
right now it's just a bunch of adaptors. however a new shift **** usually helps...our stock **** makes it so high too.
stLvtec...
i don't believe they'll ever come out with a true short shifter for our car..we're on a cable actuated system not a rod linkage...only thing i could think of is bring yours to a shop and get it cut and rethreaded.
right now it's just a bunch of adaptors. however a new shift **** usually helps...our stock **** makes it so high too.
10-03-2001
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Rep Power: 0 This is a great thread. I'm curious though: what are advantages or disadvantages of cable-actuated shifters VS. rod-linkage shifters ..... which one's better?
Are the 2k1's the first Civics to have cable-actuated shifters? And what do the more expensive cars have ? (like Mercs and BMWs)
Are the 2k1's the first Civics to have cable-actuated shifters? And what do the more expensive cars have ? (like Mercs and BMWs)
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Rep Power: 0 no they're not the first...just the previous civs had rod linkage.
rod linkage has a more precise feel
story is the reason why honda went with cable is cuz unlike rod it doesn't transmit as much of the vibrations etc. eg with a rod you'll see the shifter sorta vibrate..with the cable it doesn't.
so for the civic market..it adds to the quiet/smooth feel
however with cable it occasionally binds, whereas not with the rod.
it's one of those debateable things as to which is better. depends. personally with a rod yuo can "feel" the car much better.
rod linkage has a more precise feel
story is the reason why honda went with cable is cuz unlike rod it doesn't transmit as much of the vibrations etc. eg with a rod you'll see the shifter sorta vibrate..with the cable it doesn't.
so for the civic market..it adds to the quiet/smooth feel
however with cable it occasionally binds, whereas not with the rod.
it's one of those debateable things as to which is better. depends. personally with a rod yuo can "feel" the car much better.
10-03-2001
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Rep Power: 0 Thanks toasty. That was exactly what the sales guy told me... but I didn't know what the hell he was talking about at the time.
Ok now what does a shifter "binding" mean?
Ok now what does a shifter "binding" mean?
10-04-2001
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Rep Power: 0 Hey toasty,
I just installed mine yesterday, and I noticed something quite different between the solo and the DC Sports.
The DC Sports is notched so you dont't have to worry about getting it perfectly level. That is one thing I really like about it.
Anyway, it is an easy install,makes the shifts much firmer, and MUCH shorter (Even with the stock ****)
I just installed mine yesterday, and I noticed something quite different between the solo and the DC Sports.
The DC Sports is notched so you dont't have to worry about getting it perfectly level. That is one thing I really like about it.
Anyway, it is an easy install,makes the shifts much firmer, and MUCH shorter (Even with the stock ****)
10-06-2001
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Rep Power: 0 some people have brand preference, eg. they have the front bar, or other accessories/mods and want to keep the same going through their car.
but essentially both solo and dc's are very similar and both constructed out of solid materials.
but essentially both solo and dc's are very similar and both constructed out of solid materials.
11-30-2001
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Rep Power: 0 Guess what! I I cut it and then I weld it and it looks killer!!!!!!!!! and I used all factory stuff!!!!!
and It feels great while driving. Ididnt pay anything, I did it myfelf. You migh have to pay for the welding and that's it!!!!!!!
and It feels great while driving. Ididnt pay anything, I did it myfelf. You migh have to pay for the welding and that's it!!!!!!!
12-03-2001
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Rep Power: 0 I aint got pics. But what I did was, I cut the shifter 2 inches between the threads and just before it starts to bend. then you just weld the shifter with the threads piece. and believe me, it looks great and it feels good and I'll see if i can post some pics!
12-03-2001
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Rep Power: 0 who cares how it looks....the thing is does it work properly.....hope you did a good welding job...cause you wouldnt want it to snap off during a shift...hehe
12-03-2001
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Rep Power: 0 Man, I am telling you, IT IS GOOD![IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG] Let see if I can get some pictures, and YES it works great!
Sometimes you got to experiment!
Sometimes you got to experiment!
12-04-2001
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Rep Power: 0 Just got my short shifter from ppsonline.com ( THANKS Toasty for tellin' me the web-address[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] after I install the adapter. I'm gonna cut the shaft of the lever down to about 1 to 2 and a half inches above the adapter and screw on my momo shift **** and have a really, really, really short shifter. Just gotta shorten the shift boot( Toasty, can I use the same shift boot and just cut it down to length?)
