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Old 01-14-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Barack Obama.

it doesnt matter if he doesnt have a chance. he is electable. if people vote for him, he'll have a chance. anyone with a negative attitude cant support him. you cant compare RP with the rest of the candidates.. well non of the mainstream ones...

he's doing decent. people will start to wake up.
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i think HILLARY is a better candidate...
I would like to point out (again) that you have yet to give one thoughtful reason ("OBAMA SUCKS HILLARY FTW" is not a real reason) why Hillary is even qualified to be in the running for President, let alone why anybody should ever vote for her this November.

And yes, I will make sure to point this out every chance I get.
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hillary wouldn't change much of anything. her policies are lame. good luck with ron paul. obama belongs to a party, but i truly believe that he has the fiber required to stay open minded enough to pick and choose beneficial policies, bills, etc from any party, and using all resources to make good decisions for the whole of the nation, avoiding getting stuck in the democratic mud. he is not only a truly great speaker, which is absolutely necessary for foreign affairs and keeping the publics faith, but i believe he is one of the most honest people to have run for presidency in years. my opinion.
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hillary wouldn't change much of anything. her policies are lame. good luck with ron paul. obama belongs to a party, but i truly believe that he has the fiber required to stay open minded enough to pick and choose beneficial policies, bills, etc from any party, and using all resources to make good decisions for the whole of the nation, avoiding getting stuck in the democratic mud. he is not only a truly great speaker, which is absolutely necessary for foreign affairs and keeping the publics faith, but i believe he is one of the most honest people to have run for presidency in years. my opinion.
Hillary would change lots, including a large number of socialist programs aimed at subsidizing laziness and idiocy, taxing those who have been successful in achieving the American Dream, taxing those who fund the economy, and destroying any Capitalist fiber this country has left.

A funny thing, to me, at least, is how Obama gets criticized for lacking political experience. To those who make that argument, I ask, what the fuck has Hillary ever done except con a bunch of New Yorkers into believe she was one of them? The bitch is from Chicago. So she's got a few years of being governor under her belt for a state she hadn't lived in prior to trying to get elected. What impressive political experience.

A few Hillary quotes for everybody's reading pleasure (or disgust, if your brain works properly).

"I certainly think the free market has failed."- Hillary Clinton, 2007

"I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe."- Hillary Clinton, 1996

"We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton, 2004

"We can't just trust the American people to make these types of choices... Government has to make these choices for the people."- Hillary Clinton, discussing her disastrous tax-payer-funded health care plan, 1993



As for Obama, he associates himself with supporters of Marxism and Che Guevara, which is enough reason in and of itself not to vote for him. He explicitly wants to limit free markets the way that Hillary does. Oh, that's a great idea - tax the people who create jobs even more. The current credit crunch is happening because capital isn't available to the small business owners - those who both create many jobs and are marginalized when the economy slows down and credit becomes scarce.

Being a great speaker doesn't mean anything if you don't have anything good to say. Hitler was one of the greatest public speakers in recorded history - look how well that went.

When faced with two Democratic candidates who seem to be such proponents of increased governmental control, increased taxes, redistribution of wealth, and the destruction of the possibility to rise above mediocrity in America, it truly strikes fear into the hearts of those who work hard day in and day out to do better than their parents. For those of you who think the government already takes too much from your pocket, I suggest you start working your forearms and wearing tighter jeans - the government may soon be grabbing for your wallet so quickly that you won't have to worry about getting mugged in the street... the gov't will have made muggers obsolete via socialist reform policies all under the guise of "change."

And for anybody that understands markets...


For those of you who don't understand markets, educate yourselves on economics and your views on Hillary and Obama will likely change.

By the way, there have been several honest presidential hopefuls in past years... just none of them can gain support. Ron Paul is, by far, the most honest man to run in many years, but he really doesn't have a chance at winning. I'm not saying Obama is a dishonest man (I will say Hillary, and all Clintons, are lying pieces of shit though) but I will say that his views and proposed policies will hurt our markets even worse than the massively un-Republican policies of our current President.

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