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Old 09-13-2006   #16 (permalink)
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I would need a LOT of evidence. And not from a random source either. If you search hard enough on the net you can find someone somewhere that supports pretty much anything.

Got into an argument with a friend of mine where he was spouting that crap about 9/11 saying that Bush personally gave the Hijackers flight lessons and even purchased the tickets for them.
I think your friend may be mired in the partisan politics that the NWO would just LOVE for everyone to get involved in. If the Reps and Dems appear to oppose each other, and are actually working towards the same goal, then they can get the majority of the populace to support one or the other party... which they control, and keep the dissent confined. If everyone hates Bush, then that's great, Hillary will get elected next. And Hillary will continue where Bush left off. It's when a few people start thinking outside of the two party system that the NWO people start to get jittery.

I don't blame you for needing a lot of evidence, I'm in the same boat. I still don't know what I really believe, I'm undecided. But one thing I do know: Bush is taking away our freedoms and using 9/11 as an excuse to do so. And that's never a good thing.
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From the days immediately after the 9/11 attacks I had been always suspicious that wtc towers’ collapse were controlled demolitions planned by government insiders to get innocent ppl of the US to support their dirty plans in the name of “war against terror”.

Its not hard to see this at all. I mean how could a couple of opium addicts in caves in Afghanistan have possibly planned such an attack in such scale?? What could have possibly motivated them to do so? Even if planes WERE hijacked (of course by a few middle-easterners kids who overtook eight pilots, and their crew members and passengers, using razor-blade boxcutters and then managed to take control of the pilots cabin then fly the planes directly into their target not once but 3 FREAKIN TIMES in a matter of 2 hours without any fighter jets being scrambled and no air defence system activated in a country with the greatest military on the planet!!) I mean even if all this hijacking theories were real and planes hit the towers why in the hell would the towers collapse? More surprisingly why the fack would tower 7 collapse which was not even hit by a plane? And it collapsed in such a controlled manner!!!??? Damn terrorist, they must be really good demolition experts!! The theories provided by the government agencies are just all complete crap! Why the hell weren't they able to recover ANY black boxes which are designed to be indestructible? why did the firefighters report hearing explosions go off before the towers collapsed? did the terrorist plant high tech explosives in some of the most protected towers in the world (especially tower 7)?

All these questions and many many more have been troubling my mind, I questioned these collapses many times but every time I got laughed at, even my parents would laugh at me when I talked about this being an insiders job, until lately I started doing some research to find the truth and guess what? I figured I was not the only one with these on my mind, I found lots of documentaries about 9/11 which unveiled the truth, even a videotaped lecture in a US university. For me as a civil engineering student in a well respected university in North America is extremely hard to belive that JET FUEL CAUSED THE STEEL TO MELT AND RESULTED IN THE TOWER’S COLLAPSE, in a building that had been designed to withstand impact of not only one, but 2 Boeing 707’s (largest airliners of that time) with 6 tubular steel columns in the center of the building designed SPECIFICALLY to keep the building from collapsing!!!!!!!! All these facts and a lot more are unveiled on numerous videos which could be found by a simple google search, here’s a few:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62761605341661
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...%2F11+collapse

My heart goes to all the innocent ppl that lost their lives on that horrible day and to all marines and Iraqi and afghan civilians who have lost their lives on this so called “war on terror”. I hope that all animals involved in this “gang” which planned these attakes and the wars after that will be brought to justice some day in front of millions and millions of ppl who want nothing but peace and freedom!!
I hope for a day in which all civilizations will live in peace with each other and freedom and real democracy, with no hatred and racism and Nazism, I hope with all my heart that I will witness such a day. I don’t want to see anymore wars and innocent ppl dying
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I can honestly say that I can't believe for certain one way or another about 9/11. Too many people believe in it just because they hate Bush. And too many people don't believe in it because they like Bush. It's like this president has caused one of the biggest divides in americans ever. You either hate him or love him. And I don't feel either way towards him.

There are a number of "smoking guns", though, it would appear. Not just building 7, but the whole "the proof is in the pudding" arguement... everytime a speech is made, it's all about terrorism, how we are "at risk". It's like... well what about the rest of us who have just gone on with our lives?

Alex Jones has recently come out again with a "they will attack us" warning, he says all the signs are there.... and I do have to agree with him. The signs are there that we'll get attacked again soon by our gov't. And the ONLY other time he gave such a warning? July 2001.

I don't know what's going to happen. But I'm not worried. What will happen... that will happen. I'm thinking a nuclear or dirty bomb attack. Soon.
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yes we will get attacked sooner or later by either the government or by the middle easterns who have lost their loved ones in Bush administration's "war on terror", they will come for revenge some time! all bush has done in recent yrs is creat terrorist groups who want revenge but can't afford to purchase sophisticated weaponary

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...truth+and+lies

this guy got ballzz!!

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NWO may be upon us already..
Martial law, cover ups, microships, the patriot act, suppose terrorist attacks, media control..little by little we are being introduced to it all, there's signs everywhere

It's only a matter of time..
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I totally disagree with the thought that "shadow government" could not exist and remain secretive. It's absolutely amazing what fear and money can do. Given enough money silence can easily be achieved and even moreso when there is fear involved.

We've all seen signs that there are political secrets going on behind closed doors. The media is so wrapped up in this whole mess that even if something was to come to light it would be manipulated so much that it would be concidered complete BS.

Ignorance is bliss. Nobody wants to know that thier government is secretly the very bane of existence. Nobody wants to think that there are political gains as a result of countless lives lost.

There is so much going on right now, but any discussion sounds like a group of X-Files junkies getting together to discuss the hidden season. Sadly enough, the truth really is out there, but everyone is oblivious to what is going on, and to be quite honest I really feel that it is for the best.
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I'll ask you the same question I asked someone else earlier, Notorious...

How much evidence would it take to make you believe that our government is responsible and the source of 9/11? A whole stinking lot, right? A good conspiracy theory can't be proven.

Needless to say, you're never going to get that sort of info, whether it is a confession or what. Therefore, you have to have an open enough mind to understand that you could be fooled right now.

I personally think that a lot of people bury their heads in the sand in regards to this, because it's too mind blowing, too scary, too jarring to think that our government would cause 9/11 to happen just because the consequences to that... mean that our government cares nothing for us, set up the iraqi war on purpose, wants more power, wants to dominate us so BAD that they care nothing for thousands of people... hundreds of thousands of people, really.

Jarring indeed.

Go back to sleep; Everything is under CONTROL.
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I'll ask you the same question I asked someone else earlier, Notorious...

How much evidence would it take to make you believe that our government is responsible and the source of 9/11? A whole stinking lot, right? A good conspiracy theory can't be proven.

Needless to say, you're never going to get that sort of info, whether it is a confession or what. Therefore, you have to have an open enough mind to understand that you could be fooled right now.

I personally think that a lot of people bury their heads in the sand in regards to this, because it's too mind blowing, too scary, too jarring to think that our government would cause 9/11 to happen just because the consequences to that... mean that our government cares nothing for us, set up the iraqi war on purpose, wants more power, wants to dominate us so BAD that they care nothing for thousands of people... hundreds of thousands of people, really.

Jarring indeed.

Go back to sleep; Everything is under CONTROL.
I agree... Everything is under control. Sadly it's someone else's control. Little by little I do believe that information is going to be leaked. Look at conspiracies of the past, watergate, the JFK assasination, Roswell and project blue book, the list goes on and on. It actually doesn't take too much for me to believe. I'm a very rational person, sometimes a bit to rational. I will observe and breakdown everything that I see. I fully live by the credo "Believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see".

I don't neccisarily believe that people willingly bury their heads, in fact I think it's quite the opposite. I think that if more people had a clue as to what was going on apathy wouldn't even be a concern. As I said in my earlier post, I think fear is the biggest concern. The people that have a clue are so afraid to come public so as a result the masses will never know. And maybe it's better this way. Could you imagine the chaos that would occur as a result of a world wide government coming to light? The thought that we are nothing more than pawns in a global takeover? I think that by people being exposed to what is really going on would cause world-wide panic and as a result destroy the very fabric of existence that our lives are currently situated under.

In regards to 9/11 and Operation: Iraqi Freedom, there have been far too many contradictions for it to have been planned by an outside source. There was intent placed behind all these events, and I pray that we never find out why. I myself will still support our troops no matter what. I have a good chunk of family and friends that are out risking thier lives to defend my free will. Once again, we are nothing more than pawns...
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