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Thats all I was trying to say. They do affect our economy. And, they spend a lot of money on sales taxes and a lot of people I know and see support our economy from a way that I can't/won't do it.
As for people that claim that they don't follow laws, that is wrong too. If you know, they will get kiced out quicker once the police get them after breaking a law.
If you know, they will get kiced out quicker once the police get them after breaking a law.
thats not true. they don't have to follow cause they are not officially part of this country. they won't get deported unless there are serious warrants out in mexico. thats the truth.
This boycot was dumb. I swear, its not cause we are against mexicans or latino's has nothing to do with color of skin. Its about the fact that people are coming in to this nation illegally, taking jobs, not paying taxes, flying an mexican flag around when they live in america, and trying to speek up so that there brothers and sisters can stay here in the land of oppertunity. I Have no problem with someone staying, if they are willing to do it the right way. For now i seriously hope this law passes. I hope that all illegals once they are arrested are instantly deported, rather it be mexican, latino, italian, japanies, chinies, mongolian, indian, iranian, whatever they are. It just pisses me off to see an american waving around a mexican flag in america. You can be proud, but be proud of where you live. Show respect for the nation that gives you the freedom to protest and not get shot, arrested, or hung. Im just sick of it all. Im the minority now a day. Why cant you hear me speeking? Im not a hater, im just putting in my 2 cents.
I would like to see the american people that are willing to mow lawns, do janitoral work, work in factories that sew clothes, work for low wages.
OMFG.........
go to ANY state outside of immigrant hotspots and you will see mostly "white americans" doing those jobs.
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Originally Posted by bigsamdog
so u and every1 who says "send them back" should go back to the country their ancestors came from right? didnt think so. so it was ok for ur ancestors but not for these ppl? come on this country was founded by immigrants for immigrants, ppl searchin for a better life.
this is the most RETARDED argument out there right now. Who cares if most of the people here had relatives like 5 generations ago immigrate here. first off, that is irrelavent. the problem we have is CURRENT, not from 150 years ago. Second, there were no immigration laws even up to the early 20th century. The rule was: come here, sit in quarantine for a few days, then your good to go. all these people you are TRYING AND FAILING to use in your argument did come here legally.
Last edited by sevenplaces : 05-15-2006 at 07:51 PM.
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I've said this a million times, and I don't know how relavant it is to this thread, but Mexican illegal immigrants are not that bad. They work, and want to work, to support themselves. Its the immigrants that come to america and want to do nothing that need to be immediatly deported.
Here is how I feel.
Give illegal immigrants a chance to show they are going to work. If they become productive members of American society, and don't just suck up federal money, then let them stay legally. Also tax them 2x what a normal citizen gets taxed. When they have shown they are worth having, then give them citizenship and normal taxes.
If not, kick them out!
I also feel that any immigrant caught for certain crimes should be immediatly deported. If an immigrant gets busted for dealing drugs, kick em out. If they murder, kick em out. If the steal, kick em out. I am only saything this because I have no problems when good people want to come here. Unfortunatly we have enough human waste in america and don't need any more!
I'm just gonna cut and paste my stance directly from my blog, located here: http://pushbuttonpornstar.blogspot.com cause I really don't feel like typing it out again.
Lately, especially here in Georgia, the illegal immigrants have taken it upon themselves to confront government's stance on illegal immigration. Which, whatever that may be is not evident. None of the immigration laws are enforced, and when they are, it's usually in a sting operation that is unrelated. The illegals are caught in the crossfire. Recently, I read something that was written by Charlie Daniels. Call him a racist, or what have you, but his comments were rather spot on. He went into deep discussion regarding the topic of illegal immigration. I'm not going to sit here and quote his rhetoric, as that's unnecessary. This shit is about me.
Immigration laws were written for a reason. Whether they're enforced or not by our porous government remains to be seen. They say they're going to start taking a stance on illegals, we'll see. The pussification of Washington is upon us. The apocalypse has begun. However you choose to word it, this could tear the framework out from under America as we know it.
There is a reason for immigration laws. They are in place to prevent people from illegally entering our great nation. Sure, I'm all for people coming into our society and becoming productive members, regardless of their origin. This is where people have it all wrong. They use immigration and illegals universally. In actuality, there is a large difference. Immigration is a legal process of becoming a citizen of America. Illegals invade our land by whatever means necessary. We as Americans have to take a stand against them should we want to be productive in eliminating the problem plaguing our great nation. Yes, we have a melting pot society. We all come from somewhere else, well the majority of us. I have roots in the original Americans, as I am a descendant of the Cherokee tribe. The fact still remains though that America is a land of opportunity. Should that opportunity come legally, I have no problem with it. But for someone to infiltrate our borders, come to work stealing jobs from American citizens, or those in the process of immigrating legally is as horrendous and egregrious as the 9/11 tragedies, as those persons comitting those acts were both illegals and terrorists. Nothing good comes from illegal immigration.
People say that they work jobs that Americans won't. We are all responsible for this evil as we hire them for the low wages to keep our costs down and net a larger bottom line. This is wrong, and as an American those of you that hire them should be ashamed of your actions. You're sponsoring their illegal status. They come here, save up a couple of grand and get illegal papers by paying someone to steal an identity for them. This is illegal and disgraceful. Those obtaining these papers to give them someway to work here should be deported right along with the beaners. Why should they feel obligated to provide these people with papers to make an illegal profit for themselves.
It's disgraceful that we allow this to happen. I, as a natural born American feel ashamed to call these people my fellow citizens. God bless those that are going through the process legally. They are true to becoming an American. They aren't looking to come here, make a quick buck and return home to live off of ten years worth of work for the rest of their lives because the American dollar trumps the value of the money where they come from. They look to make their money and return home, bottom line. They don't care about America. They want to bring their society here and over run our country, and we're sitting here letting it happen. We should feel shame. We should feel like shit, because we're responsible for this. They come here, rewrite our laws, rewrite our very own ****ing National Anthem to fit into their lifestyle. This country is becoming a bigger joke by the minute. And the politicians could care less, so long as they recieve their votes and get their offices. What a pussification of our country this issue is becoming.
