Go Back   Honda Civic Forum > OFF TOPIC > Off Topic > Political Discussion
Reload this Page

Senate Passes Immigration Legislation...

Political Discussion A place to hold political debates and general discussion. Please remember to always respect the opinions of other members and above all else, be civil.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-03-2006   #31 (permalink)
modoman
I'll flip out and kill people.
 
modoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: ATX, Planet Beldar
Posts: 8,380
modoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant future
iTrader: (6)
do you have as much fun as i on the highway? woohoo... friday afternoon i saw an extended cab truck with 10 workers in it, and their back wheel ROLLED OFF and in front of their truck, and they ran over it. kinda bitter sweet, because it was hilarious, yet i felt bad and almost thought about helping; however, it was hot, i was on my way home, and they are also probably illegal, without license, insurance, etc etc....
modoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006   #32 (permalink)
Tragedy
skate or die
 
Tragedy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,314
Tragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to all
iTrader: (9)
lol that would have been funny as shit. Yesterday I saw a truck bed full of people and one had a megaphone!
Tragedy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006   #33 (permalink)
MBison
HWDP
 
MBison's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 310 (SoCal)
Posts: 1,597
MBison is just really niceMBison is just really niceMBison is just really niceMBison is just really nice
iTrader: (16)
whats the status on the law? is it true that they're planning on disregarding it?
MBison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #34 (permalink)
big20ugly
Jefe de Jefes
 
big20ugly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Denver, Colorado
Age: 27
Posts: 1,084
big20ugly is an unknown quantity at this point
iTrader: (0)
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/...ion/index.html

I knew those silly republicans would come around.
big20ugly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #35 (permalink)
Tragedy
skate or die
 
Tragedy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,314
Tragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to allTragedy is a name known to all
iTrader: (9)
Yes The 2k fee, etc was announced earlier this week but what I am waiting for is the conclusion.
Tragedy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #36 (permalink)
ZapThyCat
7thGen Junkie
 
ZapThyCat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Livermore, Cali
Age: 29
Posts: 21,351
ZapThyCat is a splendid one to beholdZapThyCat is a splendid one to beholdZapThyCat is a splendid one to beholdZapThyCat is a splendid one to beholdZapThyCat is a splendid one to beholdZapThyCat is a splendid one to beholdZapThyCat is a splendid one to beholdZapThyCat is a splendid one to beholdZapThyCat is a splendid one to beholdZapThyCat is a splendid one to behold
iTrader: (19)
Status quo, I'm predicting. No one has the guts to really press this stuff through.
ZapThyCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #37 (permalink)
modoman
I'll flip out and kill people.
 
modoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: ATX, Planet Beldar
Posts: 8,380
modoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant futuremodoman has a brilliant future
iTrader: (6)
i am certainly sick as hell of seeing those bastard protestors and their mexican flag-waving. sorry i contributed nothing in this post...
modoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #38 (permalink)
P.O.S.B.A.S.04
Ever Wonder What P.O.S.B.A.S. Is An Acronym For
 
P.O.S.B.A.S.04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 25
Posts: 366
P.O.S.B.A.S.04 will become famous soon enoughP.O.S.B.A.S.04 will become famous soon enough
iTrader: (0)
my bet is that it will pass! it has been on many american's minds and now that it has been brought up in a bill i think we already have enough forward momentum to make it happen!
P.O.S.B.A.S.04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #39 (permalink)
SLO REX
250+ awhp Stage 2
 
SLO REX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 23
Posts: 10,855
SLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant futureSLO REX has a brilliant future
iTrader: (19)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tragedy
I think it is fantastic that it is a felony. The majority of the illegals are social sewage anyway.
So true. Also none have insurance and when you get in a wreck with them you are basically FUCT and there is nothing you can do. As for the waving of the Mexico flag, WHAT THE HELL ARE Y'ALL THINKING. If y'all are so much for Mexico and about that, GO BACK TO MEXICO AND REP IT THERE!
SLO REX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #40 (permalink)
manthatguysfast
How many pots have you smoken?
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
 
manthatguysfast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Merced
Age: 24
Posts: 3,170
manthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of light
iTrader: (3)
im really not sure how i feel on this..

but, just wanted to chime in...there is such a thing as uninsured motorist coverage that covers you against.. uninsured motorist! im postive of this seeing as i work in insurance.

i do agree with you that they should be waiving AMERICAN flags if they're wanting to be allowed to stay here. they should be protesting on the basis that they work here, live here, are part of american society and frankly that they WANT TO BE AMERICAN. i do agree that they're dumbasses in this sense. its like they're rebelling by waiving the mexican flag showing that "so what, we're mexican and here to stay. idiots.

again im really not sure where i stand on this issue. i can understand both sides and agree with some points of each.
manthatguysfast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #41 (permalink)
P.O.S.B.A.S.04
Ever Wonder What P.O.S.B.A.S. Is An Acronym For
 
P.O.S.B.A.S.04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 25
Posts: 366
P.O.S.B.A.S.04 will become famous soon enoughP.O.S.B.A.S.04 will become famous soon enough
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by manthatguysfast
im really not sure how i feel on this..

but, just wanted to chime in...there is such a thing as uninsured motorist coverage that covers you against.. uninsured motorist! im postive of this seeing as i work in insurance.

i do agree with you that they should be waiving AMERICAN flags if they're wanting to be allowed to stay here. they should be protesting on the basis that they work here, live here, are part of american society and frankly that they WANT TO BE AMERICAN. i do agree that they're dumbasses in this sense. its like they're rebelling by waiving the mexican flag showing that "so what, we're mexican and here to stay. idiots.

again im really not sure where i stand on this issue. i can understand both sides and agree with some points of each.

there is such a thing but at the same time, that just costs you and i more money on your insurance...another downfall of having illegals. that is what that policy of insurance was designed for anyway as for you being undecided, that is your right as an AMERICAN CITIZEN to be undecided and to have your own opinion!!! on that note, they (the illegals) should not have an opinion b/c they are NOT American citizens!!! must my .02
P.O.S.B.A.S.04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #42 (permalink)
MBison
HWDP
 
MBison's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 310 (SoCal)
Posts: 1,597
MBison is just really niceMBison is just really niceMBison is just really niceMBison is just really nice
iTrader: (16)
^
MBison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006   #43 (permalink)
manthatguysfast
How many pots have you smoken?
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
 
manthatguysfast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Merced
Age: 24
Posts: 3,170
manthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of lightmanthatguysfast is a glorious beacon of light
iTrader: (3)
while i agree with your point that they shouldnt have a say because they're illegal....i also agree with the fact that many of them have lived here for quite a long time. they live with us and work with us...hell, my BEST FRIEND is here illegally. he came over when he was like....2 or 3 and has lived as an american ever since. he knows the language perfectly, works 2 jobs, stays outta trouble and pays taxes. He is documented that he's here...but he's not a citizen. he has a TAX ID # that he pays taxes with instead of using his SSN (since they wont give him one)

These people you just wanna kick out of "the worlds melting pot" work here and do a lot of jobs that American citizens wouldnt do for the price that the people who are here illegally gladly do. Yes, someone said that Americans can do the job just as good. Well, you're right! however...i venture to say NO american would do the hardass manual labor that these people do for the price they do it. here in CA, especially in the Valley where i live, AG is BIG business. where would these farmers be if they had to pay Americans to pick fruit? they would lose a ton of money. now think about going to the store and paying $3.00 for a single lemon that your fellow countrymen picked. just doesn't make sense. now im not saying this is the only thing they're good for, its just one thing they provide to us.

dont get me wrong, i also understand the con side of this story, and since this thread is flooded with comments against them....guess im playing devils advacate.

if it were up to me id look at it objectively. how can you guys say "oh i didn't help these people in a time of need cuz they're illegal" ? they're still people! just because they were born maybe 100 miles south of an imaginary line...you're not going to help them? thats hella fvcked up. how can you say "the majority of illegals are social sewage"? how many illegal immigrants do YOU know? While i understand your sence of pride in America and the fact that you want to "protect" our borders - you cant just say if you're here illegally you're a bad person or whatever. I would suggest making any person with a serious criminal record be sent back or be put in jail. thats OK with me! if you're here and you actually are "social sewage" then by all means GET THE FVCK OUT! thats ok...but what i don't agree with is generalizing that all illegals are bad people with criminal records or are only here to smuggle drugs or live off our government.

many time, families try to get legalized but cant do it all at once. Either its too expensive (do you know how much it costs to become a citizen?) or the paperwork takes FOREVER. how would you feel if your family went to a different country to try to prosper and that country wouldn't give your whole family citizenship? would you be like "alright, Mom, Dad, im going to a different country...see ya when i see ya, PEACE!" I think not. you'd bring them over and do what you can do get legalized. my friend who i mentioned earlier has been in the process of becoming "naturalized" for a few years but it just takes a LONG TIME. His parents, however, have been made citizens.

Quote:
Originally Posted by P.O.S.B.A.S.04
there is such a thing but at the same time, that just costs you and i more money on your insurance...another downfall of having illegals. that is what that policy of insurance was designed for anyway as for you being undecided, that is your right as an AMERICAN CITIZEN to be undecided and to have your own opinion!!! on that note, they (the illegals) should not have an opinion b/c they are NOT American citizens!!! must my .02
ok im really not tryin to start a "e-fight" (lol i love that word, check my posts haha) anywho...do you realize that there are AMERICAN citizens who drive without insurance?! i know its hard to understand, but illegal immigrants arent the only ones who are social sewage in this country. Hell, id stay away from KKK white trailor trash who fvck their sisters and live off the government before i stayed away from Juanito who is picking fruit trying to earn enough money to buy bread for his 16 kids (lol)

so yes UMBI/PD (uninsured motorist bodily injury/property damage) coverage costs you and I more, but its protecting us against more than illegal immigrants.

Last edited by manthatguysfast : 04-07-2006 at 12:03 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
manthatguysfast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006   #44 (permalink)
MajinB
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
 
MajinB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: georgia
Age: 23
Posts: 7,998
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
iTrader: (21)
bounty hunters everywhere will raid ghetto neihboorhoods everywhere in hopes of collecting the cash for turning them in.

in GA right now, there is legislation about not giving public services to illegal immigrants. no hospital care, no public schooling, none of it.

Last edited by MajinB : 04-07-2006 at 12:05 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
MajinB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006   #45 (permalink)
P.O.S.B.A.S.04
Ever Wonder What P.O.S.B.A.S. Is An Acronym For
 
P.O.S.B.A.S.04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 25
Posts: 366
P.O.S.B.A.S.04 will become famous soon enoughP.O.S.B.A.S.04 will become famous soon enough
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by manthatguysfast
These people you just wanna kick out of "the worlds melting pot" work here and do a lot of jobs that American citizens wouldnt do for the price that the people who are here illegally gladly do. Yes, someone said that Americans can do the job just as good. Well, you're right! however...i venture to say NO american would do the hardass manual labor that these people do for the price they do it. here in CA, especially in the Valley where i live, AG is BIG business. where would these farmers be if they had to pay Americans to pick fruit? they would lose a ton of money. now think about going to the store and paying $3.00 for a single lemon that your fellow countrymen picked. just doesn't make sense. now im not saying this is the only thing they're good for, its just one thing they provide to us.
indeed, they do a lot of the jobs American citizens would not do....that has already been brought up and some ideas were brought, i think it is a few posts back.

Quote:
Originally Posted by manthatguysfast
dont get me wrong, i also understand the con side of this story, and since this thread is flooded with comments against them....guess im playing devils advacate.
wouldn't be a good post if someone didn't take this roll

Quote:
Originally Posted by manthatguysfast
if it were up to me id look at it objectively. how can you guys say "oh i didn't help these people in a time of need cuz they're illegal" ? they're still people! just because they were born maybe 100 miles south of an imaginary line...you're not going to help them? thats hella fvcked up. how can you say "the majority of illegals are social sewage"? how many illegal immigrants do YOU know? While i understand your sence of pride in America and the fact that you want to "protect" our borders - you cant just say if you're here illegally you're a bad person or whatever. I would suggest making any person with a serious criminal record be sent back or be put in jail. thats OK with me! if you're here and you actually are "social sewage" then by all means GET THE FVCK OUT! thats ok...but what i don't agree with is generalizing that all illegals are bad people with criminal records or are only here to smuggle drugs or live off our government.
did you know that the mexican mafia and is America's number one gang? do you know where they recruit from? they recruit from the illegals that come over here. that is how i can say things so easily. and you know, not being mean or anything but, you friend is THE exception. the MAJORITY of illegals don't speak english fluently, don't have a tax ID# and all the other stuff your best friend has. and ok, if you are here illegally then you may not be a "bad" person but what are you then? you are sneaky, a liar, coniving, etc.... yeah, a lot of them do come here to live of our government...it is sad but true and i am not saying that all of them do but there is a good percentage of them that do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by manthatguysfast
many time, families try to get legalized but cant do it all at once. Either its too expensive (do you know how much it costs to become a citizen?) or the paperwork takes FOREVER. how would you feel if your family went to a different country to try to prosper and that country wouldn't give your whole family citizenship? would you be like "alright, Mom, Dad, im going to a different country...see ya when i see ya, PEACE!" I think not. you'd bring them over and do what you can do get legalized. my friend who i mentioned earlier has been in the process of becoming "naturalized" for a few years but it just takes a LONG TIME. His parents, however, have been made citizens.
not hating on you or anything but once again, your friend and his situation is THE exception to all of this. he IS trying to become a citizen and he IS going through the process. those who are going through the process of becoming a citizen, they can stay here...it is the people who run from the INS, don't pay taxes, commit crimes, working in kitchens doing dishes and can't speak a lick of English, the people who are NOT even raising a finger to beomce a citizen, then I say, FUK'EM! Kick their a$$e$ outta here!!!



Quote:
Originally Posted by manthatguysfast
ok im really not tryin to start a "e-fight" (lol i love that word, check my posts haha) anywho...do you realize that there are AMERICAN citizens who drive without insurance?! i know its hard to understand, but illegal immigrants arent the only ones who are social sewage in this country. Hell, id stay away from KKK white trailor trash who fvck their sisters and live off the government before i stayed away from Juanito who is picking fruit trying to earn enough money to buy bread for his 16 kids (lol)
no worries, no one thinks you are starting a fight...just open discussion. yeah, i do realize American citizens do drive without insurance. but, per capita illgals have a higher number of uninsured motorists.



Quote:
Originally Posted by manthatguysfast
so yes UMBI/PD (uninsured motorist bodily injury/property damage) coverage costs you and I more, but its protecting us against more than illegal immigrants.
i totally agree with you (also, see above comment!)




Quote:
Originally Posted by MajinB
bounty hunters everywhere will raid ghetto neihboorhoods everywhere in hopes of collecting the cash for turning them in.

in GA right now, there is legislation about not giving public services to illegal immigrants. no hospital care, no public schooling, none of it.

lol, bounty hunters.

i don't know if what they are doing in GA is a good thing or not. i mean think about this for a second: you don't school the illegals and they stay uneducated and that gives people another reason to dislike illegals. and as for the hospital care, that sounds awesome but on the flip side...not so much. think about this one...there is a mini-riot including some illegals and they are rioting for any reason. a bunch of them get hurt, we shut our hospital doors to them, they go home and become more and more sick...there could be a HUGE epidemic if we do this and i am talking about on a macro scale, not just GA.





damn that was long!

Last edited by P.O.S.B.A.S.04 : 04-07-2006 at 02:24 PM.
P.O.S.B.A.S.04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
To avoid seeing this ad in our forum please register at CivicForums.com

By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features.


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Honda Civic Forum Replies Last Post
Illegal Immigration.. Good or Bad? scansel912 Political Discussion 38 03-02-2006 11:12 AM
Thank god Bush is doing something about Immigration nick95673 Political Discussion 22 01-18-2006 08:53 AM
illegal Immigration Blue_Honda_Civ Political Discussion 70 09-02-2005 11:16 PM
Senate Gives Strong Endorsement to Rice ImPulse Off Topic 3 01-19-2005 08:50 PM
piracy legislation JAG609 Computer & Gaming 10 06-24-2003 12:59 AM

  
User Login
Our Partners
used new
Top 10 Threads
Does this shirt offend you? (NWS language)
2012 ~ Niburu, Comet of Death:
Oil!
Senate Passes Immigration Legislation...
"george bush doesnt care about black people..."
illegal Immigration
Sad but True
Give a good reason for going in to Iraq.
May 1st Boycott
Would you be mad if there was no 2nd amendment?

Site Supporters


aluminum radiator

Honda car spoilers